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In reply to the discussion: If you do not want cell phone chatting while flying [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)103. Interstate commerce. Next?
While of course I realize you probably do not think there should be an FAA in the first place, the issue here is not about speech or some right to communicate. The question here is whether the FAA should permit the installation of a piece of equipment hitherto not installed on commercial passenger aircraft.
All federal regulations, even in this instance a rule to affirmatively allow something, require a public comment period.
Absent a rule making on this class of equipment to be permitted on commercial passenger aircraft in interstate commerce, then they won't be allowed. The reason for that is that any piece of radio communication equipment to be used on or aboard aircraft needs to be positively allowed by the FAA.
It must really chap your ass that, even if we forget about airplanes, you cannot use a cell phone that does not comply with FCC regulations. There are vast areas of the country without cell phone coverage. If you were allowed to modify and operate your cell phone outside of those FCC regulations, then you could use your cellphone in places where you would otherwise be unable to do so.
So tell me, why do you stand idly by while the FCC controls the range of your cell phone communications ON THE GROUND, but you become a constitutional scholar when the FAA takes the required public comment in its rule making process to ALLOW them in the air?
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I tend to cut people a break. Someday I might want/need to make a phone call myself.
FSogol
Mar 2014
#12
Well, if you can't charter a private plane, I guess you'll just have to learn to deal with other
FSogol
Mar 2014
#43
Sure. And one way to "deal with" other people who don't know how to act in public...
Lizzie Poppet
Mar 2014
#128
Yes, well, he arranged his life at a time when cell phones weren't used on planes
jberryhill
Mar 2014
#83
What amendment guarantees the right to talk on a cell phone on a plane?
ForgoTheConsequence
Mar 2014
#66
The Madison/Hamilton fight over who should be allocated the most frequent flier miles acccumulated
msanthrope
Mar 2014
#137
All of your examples were not major problems. Major problems can be handled by the
FSogol
Mar 2014
#41
I think just asking the person nicely would work better- so they would understand your intent?
bettyellen
Mar 2014
#57
Nah, I'm a luddite with a nearly antique flip phone*. I seldom make calls and my call are usually
FSogol
Mar 2014
#62
Flying is the pits now. For decades I used to fly all over the place on business, but that
RKP5637
Mar 2014
#42
Same here, I never fly. Used to for years when it was fun, but no more. I just see planes
RKP5637
Mar 2014
#44
While I find it annoying at times, air travel is already so restrictive that I'm against any bans...
NYC_SKP
Mar 2014
#5
Nope, just the opposite. Hearing only one side of a conversation has been shown...
Silent3
Mar 2014
#120
There is also irony in telling everyone to shut up in a thread about telling people to shut up.
FSogol
Mar 2014
#17
"multiplexes all of the calls into a single satellite link on the plane"
TexasProgresive
Mar 2014
#75
that is too good and thanks for the vid. I've read of them, wondered what they looked like
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#95
Actually heavensabove is where I saw them listed, now know what to look for if it's clear here in
uppityperson
Mar 2014
#105
I get it ... mostly.... I know it will be more like a relay scenario. Like the current wifi use.
Hassin Bin Sober
Mar 2014
#108
Kids are much less annoying than loud adults, and there are already plenty of them.
HuckleB
Mar 2014
#71
To me, the movie "Her" is a horror story. Sounds like a lot of people here can't wait for it to
FSogol
Mar 2014
#67
It annoys me, but so does the government passing regulations against things just because
hughee99
Mar 2014
#51
I think it would be fine if they restricted it for parts of longer flights, when they dim the lights
bettyellen
Mar 2014
#58
Here's a good article on the technical difficulties of high altitude cell use
TexasProgresive
Mar 2014
#79
Oh. You're one of those people who read with their light on when I want to sleep
joeglow3
Mar 2014
#140
It's like a thread full of people who don't fly. This will be monitized by the airlines both
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#136