I don't think it was any one President, even Raygun. (Reply #8)

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Fri Mar 7, 2014, 09:26 AM

merrily (45,251 posts)

8. I don't think it was any one President, even Raygun.

Or even any one century. But, if we have to peg the start of it to a 20th Century President, I think we should look at Nixon, Ford and Carter, as well as Reagan, Clinton, the Bush travesties and Obama. And, IIRC, Nixon, Ford and Carter had Democratic Congresses.

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61 replies	Author	Time	Post
ROBERT REICH: The American Dream Has Fallen Apart [View all]	xchrom	Mar 2014	OP
Not "fallen apart" but rather "deliberately dismantled"	Fumesucker	Mar 2014	#1
+1	xchrom	Mar 2014	#2
Yep	newfie11	Mar 2014	#3
Yup.	ctsnowman	Mar 2014	#4
The first reply on the thread nails it.	merrily	Mar 2014	#7
+1000	dotymed	Mar 2014	#9
But before that	proReality	Mar 2014	#18
I love Bernie, and Elizabeth Warren for that matter...BUT...	Moostache	Mar 2014	#30
You won't get any shit from me.	CrispyQ	Mar 2014	#40
Moostache, I agree with a lot of your OP.	dotymed	Mar 2014	#43
AMEN, Amen, Amen	Glitterati	Mar 2014	#55
MIA fits perfectltly	dotymed	Mar 2014	#59
Yes	Stargazer09	Mar 2014	#34
+10000000	woo me with science	Mar 2014	#36
Agreed. n/t	Laelth	Mar 2014	#52
Spot on. nt	City Lights	Mar 2014	#57
America - An Empire Built On Illusion - That Empire And Illusion Is Crumbling	cantbeserious	Mar 2014	#5
The American Dream was destroyed by Raygun and his heirs.	bemildred	Mar 2014	#6
I don't think it was any one President, even Raygun.	merrily	Mar 2014	#8
The dispute dates to before the founding of the republic.	bemildred	Mar 2014	#10
I so agree about before the founding of the Republic.	merrily	Mar 2014	#16
And until we have economic democracy too, it will continue.	bemildred	Mar 2014	#21
I think big reforms come when	merrily	Mar 2014	#25
I think so too.	bemildred	Mar 2014	#29
...	merrily	Mar 2014	#35
"Mobs in the street, calling for someone's head? I've never seen anything like that."	bemildred	Mar 2014	#37
This is how I ended my part of the our several exchanges on this thread.	merrily	Mar 2014	#42
Perhaps a sarcasm smiley would help.	bemildred	Mar 2014	#48
Wait, why are we blaming our political system when it is our economic system	fasttense	Mar 2014	#12
+1. Plutocrats, really, it's the money, it drives them nuts when they have too much.	bemildred	Mar 2014	#15
It is our economic system that sucks, but it's our political system that sets the rules.	reformist2	Mar 2014	#17
You have to stop the politicians from pandering to the capitalists, not the	merrily	Mar 2014	#26
"The politicians were just going along with the highest bidder."	merrily	Mar 2014	#20
The only addition to that statement	dotymed	Mar 2014	#44
Quite right, they will never give up. nt	bemildred	Mar 2014	#46
I agree with a lot of what Reich says and it's not new.	merrily	Mar 2014	#11
K&R&Posted to FB & will likely be covered on my show this wk. nt	stevenleser	Mar 2014	#13
All these years shilling for NAFTA, "free trade"...Reich is a hypocrite or an idiot. Which is it?	Romulox	Mar 2014	#14
One major theme should be that we don't need more jobs, we need better paying ones.	reformist2	Mar 2014	#19
+1. nt	bemildred	Mar 2014	#47
"It can also be understood as the greatest propaganda victory radical conservatism ever won"	n2doc	Mar 2014	#22
You mean the present day treadmill goal of trying to achieve the unachievable goal?	Javaman	Mar 2014	#23
+1 Great post. Thanks.	merrily	Mar 2014	#28
kick, kick, kick.....	daleanime	Mar 2014	#24
Gee Bobby ...glad ya woke up to tell us what we already know.	L0oniX	Mar 2014	#27
He should know. He was economic advisor to the Prez during repeal of Glass Steagall,	merrily	Mar 2014	#31
I blame Clinton 100% for 2008. Forced to sign the repeal? Not likely.	L0oniX	Mar 2014	#32
ITS ALL CLINTON'S FAULT	Evergreen Emerald	Mar 2014	#33
Try a fact-based refutation. It's much more effective.	merrily	Mar 2014	#39
Unfortunatly, fact based refutation does not matter	Evergreen Emerald	Mar 2014	#49
I call Oscar Mayer. This thread refers to things like NAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagall	merrily	Mar 2014	#53
It's not clintons fault...	Javaman	Mar 2014	#41
Agree.	merrily	Mar 2014	#54
of course he should of veto'd it, but alas...nt	Javaman	Mar 2014	#56
I saw him defend it on, of all shows, The View.	merrily	Mar 2014	#58
He was far from forced. According to Wyden, Clinton	merrily	Mar 2014	#38
Yeah, he worked hard to get it, against lots of opposition.	bemildred	Mar 2014	#50
"Why didn’t we share the gains from globalization and technological advances more broadly?"	gulliver	Mar 2014	#45
Everybody thought the lower prices on tchotchkes would make a difference.	HughBeaumont	Mar 2014	#60
Everyone thought they could pay lower prices while retaining their existing high wages.	Romulox	Mar 2014	#61
k&r for the truth, however depressing it may be. n/t	Laelth	Mar 2014	#51

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