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DavidDvorkin

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58. In 1968, I would have agreed with you

Reply to merrily (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 7, 2014, 01:07 PM

Mar 2014

Humphrey's loss felt like a disaster to me at the time.

But in 2000, I felt that it was Reagan.

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Seriously, WTF has happened to our country? [View all] al_liberal Mar 2014 OP

$$$$$$ bigwillq Mar 2014 #1

Yup. City Lights Mar 2014 #73

We had a coup in 2000 leading to the installation of an illegitimate administration in Cleita Mar 2014 #2

Exactly, Cleita RobertEarl Mar 2014 #4

Couldn't agree more.. CherokeeDem Mar 2014 #7

It was allowing them to go free that caused the real damage, that validated their crimes. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #16

Absolutely.... CherokeeDem Mar 2014 #19

I am not sure if it is a belief that our nation couldn't survive applying the rule of law to sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #24

Nailed it. Thanks sabrina. Scuba Mar 2014 #38

Damned right. And damned good, too. malthaussen Mar 2014 #52

I remember telling people leading up to the 2000 election deutsey Mar 2014 #42

When is enough enough. Time for a revolt against the tyranny. olegramps Mar 2014 #70

Much of Reagan's damage could be undone. Shrub and the Neo-cons Dawson Leery Mar 2014 #109

And we let them get away with it... SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #10

I think it goes farther back, to Reagan. Arugula Latte Mar 2014 #12

The difference was that Reagan won his election and so did George H. W. Bush. Cleita Mar 2014 #15

Before the 1980 election the future Reagan Administration had Enthusiast Mar 2014 #44

True, but the electorate, although deceived, did vote for him. Cleita Mar 2014 #50

Iran-Contra happened in 1986 after both Reagan elections. former9thward Mar 2014 #60

Thom Hartmann has said, and I trust him to check his facts, that Reagan Cleita Mar 2014 #61

It is beyond our power to do any investigations. former9thward Mar 2014 #62

I'll email his show and ask him. I think there have been documents Cleita Mar 2014 #63

The Iran Hostages were released and returned to the US on the same day Reagan was inagurated. bvar22 Mar 2014 #72

I suspect the Senate and House were aware of that fact. former9thward Mar 2014 #74

I thought the plane took off once he was sworn in, even before his first speech was over. woodsprite Mar 2014 #77

His inauguration was a split screen showing the hostages being flown home and arriving in the US lunatica Mar 2014 #90

Exactly right. I knew it then. Anyone with half a brain knew it. pangaia Mar 2014 #84

I wouldn't trust Wikipedia... elzenmahn Mar 2014 #111

Fine, did he do a personal investigation? former9thward Mar 2014 #112

Ask him... elzenmahn Mar 2014 #116

I believe this was released through the freedom of information act. Nt newfie11 Mar 2014 #117

Iran hostage crisis started in 1979 NewJeffCT Mar 2014 #102

Well Desert One was a disaster. former9thward Mar 2014 #113

Still he was legally elected. He should have been impeached and thrown out of office Cleita Mar 2014 #101

Imagine the difference NewJeffCT Mar 2014 #99

Me too, in so many ways. Cleita Mar 2014 #100

Well said! nt raccoon Mar 2014 #35

They did not steal the election with good intentions in mind. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #43

JAMES BAKER the THIRD ! pangaia Mar 2014 #85

It is a fact that we had a coup in 2000 and the perpetrators have continued to ladjf Mar 2014 #79

While I agree that we've had a coup, I dont think it happened in 2000. rhett o rick Mar 2014 #86

That decision will come to be seen as first step to the undoing of the Republic. kairos12 Mar 2014 #96

You betcha. Same group responsible for the coup of 63 very well might have been behind it. silvershadow Mar 2014 #98

When the Felonious Five weren't dragged from their offices and guillotined, the fascists Doctor_J Mar 2014 #103

I know and I don't think anything will stop them any time soon. eom Cleita Mar 2014 #105

Nov. 22, 1963 Octafish Mar 2014 #3

Precisely. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #45

You nailed it, Octafish Trailrider1951 Mar 2014 #54

Exactly...and it's been downhill ever since. n/t Raksha Mar 2014 #114

2010 elections, and the desire to punish Democrats. Well, it succeeded. Boy did it. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #5

Will it continue this election year? n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #11

If it's up to the ODSers on DU, yes. Definitely. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #49

Note: They didn't just come out. They were exorted to come out by organizers who jtuck004 Mar 2014 #14

This. The Democrats won my 1.5 million more votes, but still lost the House. joshcryer Mar 2014 #32

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #106

Follow the $ Earth_First Mar 2014 #6

When? ReRe Mar 2014 #8

A lot of the bad stuff started with Nixon and continued, escalating merrily Mar 2014 #20

Yeah, Nixon was the one who... ReRe Mar 2014 #21

I never said Reagan was not a part of it. merrily Mar 2014 #22

What we have here... ReRe Mar 2014 #23

Peace to you as well, but merrily Mar 2014 #26

You know... ReRe Mar 2014 #28

The race to become the first trillionaire is serious business and the very wealthy valerief Mar 2014 #9

What Unregulated Capitalism Looks Like DallasNE Mar 2014 #13

Haiti's better. China just looks like Pittsburgh when I was a boy. n/t malthaussen Mar 2014 #53

I remember the grey snow DeadLetterOffice Mar 2014 #88

Its been all downhill ever since Bush was elected quinnox Mar 2014 #17

Ask rather, What can we do to make things better? merrily Mar 2014 #18

The 1980 election happened DavidDvorkin Mar 2014 #25

I disagree. merrily Mar 2014 #30

the forces of greed have a long, strong history here. progress punches through only occasionally unblock Mar 2014 #55

Yes. Soon. Please. nt merrily Mar 2014 #56

In 1968, I would have agreed with you DavidDvorkin Mar 2014 #58

I don't understand. How could you have merrily Mar 2014 #59

Backlash to the political, cultural, economic, and social upheavals of the 1960s and 1970s YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #27

The actual history teaches us it's always been an uphill fight struggle4progress Mar 2014 #29

I agree with Douglass, but he died a long time before the Security State. merrily Mar 2014 #31

I once heard Studs Terkel speak, and someone ask him why Reagan got elected Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2014 #33

What an excellent quote! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #46

+1 !! exactly lunasun Mar 2014 #115

Challenging authority involves a lot more than picking the right clothes... Junkdrawer Mar 2014 #34

we've reached the point where one player has all the good properties with hotels on all of them corkhead Mar 2014 #36

Ouch marions ghost Mar 2014 #41

That's it in a nutshell. OnionPatch Mar 2014 #71

I used a similar analogy recently. The_Commonist Mar 2014 #92

Terrific OP with many great replies. Kick. Scuba Mar 2014 #37

Well said. We need to keep asking this fundamental question marions ghost Mar 2014 #39

the conversion from Bedford Falls to Pottersville is nearly complete corkhead Mar 2014 #40

Our economic system returned to form and in the process trashed or dented the shit out of much TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #47

Seriously, people, this thread should have hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #48

Well, for one thing, the counter-revolution wasn't televised. malthaussen Mar 2014 #51

As a nation, we have let the hard right Republicans and Conservatives take over. meanit Mar 2014 #57

And they want to hire a foreign company, rickyhall Mar 2014 #64

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #65

great questions. obama's promise denied by real thugs SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2014 #66

IN A NUTSHELL: We stopped taxing excessive wealth, and they took that money and ruined our country. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #67

The stage was set by Reagan. seabeckind Mar 2014 #68

See what happens when white men feel their power slip? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #69

Two words... Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #75

Well al_liberal, mstinamotorcity2 Mar 2014 #76

Financialization and unbridled greed. moondust Mar 2014 #78

"The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." factsarenotfair Mar 2014 #80

My answer? liberalmuse Mar 2014 #81

I agree. secondvariety Mar 2014 #83

Propaganda works n2doc Mar 2014 #82

Tell it how it is!!!!!! BlueJac Mar 2014 #87

The 60's and early 70's were an aberration. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2014 #89

Circa 1995... yawnmaster Mar 2014 #91

''Chaos is required for the veils to fall down.'' DeSwiss Mar 2014 #93

One of my co-workers... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #94

Faux propaganda works. Hate radio works. Underfunding schools and poor curricula works. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #95

Yes, I think it started with Reagan.. he made it ok to be stupid. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #97

Because we don't fight back Doctor_J Mar 2014 #104

4 replies before the DINOs/BOG blamed it on Dems Doctor_J Mar 2014 #107

The conservative revolution. BarbaRosa Mar 2014 #108

I suspect the rich are running our nation and those we elect are simply puppets ... spin Mar 2014 #110