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11. Re: Clinton vs Bush - think the school environment had an impact

Fri Mar 7, 2014, 03:29 PM

Mar 2014

Clinton went to public schools in Arkansas while W attended private prep schools. Suspect the prep schools recognized the importance of getting good SAT scores to compete for Ivy admission, similar would be true for Gore who had similar advantages to W.

My scores were 1300+ while attending public school in OK. Most kids in that area took the ACT for admission to state schools. I took the SAT once in Jr year to qualify for early admission to Rice (admitted, but chose U of Ok) and did no special prep. The emphasis on these tests in '69/'70 weren't near what they are today, but did well enough to get a Nat'l Merit Scholarship and earn Presidential Scholar recognition without significant additional effort or stress. Really feel for the kids nowadays (says the old fart).

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Celebrities' SAT Scores Revealed Amid Controversy Over Regrading (Ke$ha 1500, Al Gore 1355) [View all] big_dog Mar 2014 OP

Anything over 800 was considered good back in the day. yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #1

who would have thunk it big_dog Mar 2014 #2

Smart people sell stupid to the even stupider people NightWatcher Mar 2014 #7

800 was never a good score for verbal and math combined. HERVEPA Mar 2014 #3

The fact Bush has a higher SAT score than Bill Clinton is proof the test is flawed. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #4

SAT scores aren't public record so mebbe all the numbers are BS struggle4progress Mar 2014 #19

I think it is BS. DURHAM D Mar 2014 #20

IIRC Georgetown currently accepts either struggle4progress Mar 2014 #21

Back in the day you needed SAT for east coast schools AngryAmish Mar 2014 #28

That could be. Anyway, it's unlikely Clinton -- who was a National Merit Semifinalist struggle4progress Mar 2014 #30

There has always been some leeway, especially if you know someone with pull AngryAmish Mar 2014 #32

... Bill Clinton loved to talk and loved to ask questions and I think he was unrelenting struggle4progress Mar 2014 #36

National merit semifinalists are picked by state... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #45

... but that's based on PSAT scores, not SAT scores. surrealAmerican Mar 2014 #51

I mean that he got whatever the equivalent of a 1020 is on the PSAT... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #56

And maybe some folks were able to cheat...? You know, that privilege thingy? nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #49

Or maybe one or both was fudging the scores. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #37

I find it hard to believe Politicalboi Mar 2014 #5

According to his mother, Limbaugh "flunked everything" and dropped out of Southeast Missouri State Zorra Mar 2014 #22

A lot of successful people drop out of college. former9thward Mar 2014 #27

I know, but they don't publicly lie every day as a profession. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #31

But most don't go on to become kiddie diddling hardcore junkies like Rush either. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #34

I don't find it hard to believe at all, I know plenty of people who score very high on the SAT... Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #42

I know I scored around 1180, which was very disappointing to me bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #6

I scored 100 points higher than Clinton! 1000words Mar 2014 #8

The idea of Ke$ha being a genius... LittleBlue Mar 2014 #9

James Woods beat me by 9 points KamaAina Mar 2014 #10

Re: Clinton vs Bush - think the school environment had an impact bigbrother05 Mar 2014 #11

This. Chan790 Mar 2014 #12

I doubt Clinton's SAT score was that low: he graduated near the top of his high school class, then struggle4progress Mar 2014 #13

I am sorry I have to call bullshit. npk Mar 2014 #14

Oy. Can't we argue about guns or something? nt bemildred Mar 2014 #15

guns sound good. cali Mar 2014 #16

+1 In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #23

Ke$ha got a 1500??? Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #17

She's in her 20s. Maybe she took the SAT with three parts and that's out of 2400 Orangepeel Mar 2014 #33

Some people take standardized tests very well jmowreader Mar 2014 #18

Cheech Marin did real well on Jeopardy. lpbk2713 Mar 2014 #24

Some colleges have stopped considering SAT results BainsBane Mar 2014 #25

I'm not sure what it proves tularetom Mar 2014 #26

For all intents and purposes the SAT is an IQ test. AngryAmish Mar 2014 #29

It's not called the Scholastic Aptitude Test anymore because it doesn't test aptitude Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #41

Every psychometric test is learnable. AngryAmish Mar 2014 #66

I must be the only person that took the ACT and not the SAT etherealtruth Mar 2014 #35

No, I went to high school in Michigan and took the ACT instead of the SAT. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #39

I took the ACT in 1980 :-) etherealtruth Mar 2014 #43

I am a "Oh my Dog, what if I forget my number 2 pencil, crap I skipped a question on the Scan-tron ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #44

I think the "coasts" prefer the SAT etherealtruth Mar 2014 #48

The SAT is total bullshit to begin with, it's a test that tests how well you take the test Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #38

"As you'd probably expect, Microsoft co-founders Bill Gates and Paul Allen got sky-high 1590 and..." ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #40

I tested poorly. bigwillq Mar 2014 #52

You and I are enough of a sampling for me to declare shenanigans on standardized ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #54

I'm sure folks here would disagree. bigwillq Mar 2014 #57

I love it too! It drives my son nuts. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #58

Why? bigwillq Mar 2014 #59

Because I declare shenanigans on half the stuff he does with his friends ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #60

Oh, you're THAT Mom? bigwillq Mar 2014 #61

I am. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #62

OMG! You are THAT Mom! bigwillq Mar 2014 #63

Hehehehe... ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #64

Ah..good one. bigwillq Mar 2014 #65

Raise your hand if you believe GW took that test, himself. displacedtexan Mar 2014 #46

Just goes to show that SAT scores don't mean much. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #47

I got a 750 verbal 520 Math Kurska Mar 2014 #50

My exam was lost, I have no idea what I scored Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #53

This is self reported? I don't believe O'Reilly or Limbaugh for a second. Squinch Mar 2014 #55