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36. My son in law favors a national sales tax and the elimination of the IRS. ...

Fri Mar 7, 2014, 06:57 PM

Mar 2014

He points out that this would garner revenue from people such as drug dealers and those who work and are paid under the table.

I mentioned that this would be largely unfair to the poor and essential items such as groceries would have to be exempted. He agreed.

We can tax the hell out of the rich but they always find ways to avoid taxes using existing loopholes and influencing congress to pass new ones.

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Would you agree to abolishing the IRS and going with a flat tax? [View all] kentuck Mar 2014 OP

no. n/t NMDemDist2 Mar 2014 #1

No! nt rdharma Mar 2014 #2

No CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #3

No bigwillq Mar 2014 #4

No. It's extremely regressive. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2014 #5

No Gothmog Mar 2014 #6

NO. HappyMe Mar 2014 #7

only if that flat tax had a steep positive slope Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #8

no, no, all of them, no, no Vincardog Mar 2014 #9

Only if by flat you mean "at an angle upward" A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #10

No on point Mar 2014 #11

A flat tax on total wealth? YES. reformist2 Mar 2014 #12

Wouldn't a tax based on wealth only promote consumption and discourage savings? For example kelly1mm Mar 2014 #34

Is spending worse than hoarding? FrodosPet Mar 2014 #40

It can be, depending on how you see things. But do you not see a problem kelly1mm Mar 2014 #47

I don't see a problem. A poor person who wins a million should not pay the same as a rich person. reformist2 Mar 2014 #64

It would be a good thing for everyone if the rich spent more of their money. reformist2 Mar 2014 #65

Unless you see the link between consumption and environmental degredation. Maybe they kelly1mm Mar 2014 #66

Hell NO! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #13

Not just no, but FUCK NO! hatrack Mar 2014 #14

No Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #15

No. Absolutely not. closeupready Mar 2014 #16

NO dwilso40641 Mar 2014 #17

NO! Cleita Mar 2014 #18

fuck no nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #19

No. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #20

I'd be fine with that badtoworse Mar 2014 #21

No. nt Wounded Bear Mar 2014 #22

Have a flat tax of say 15% and a property tax of 10% upaloopa Mar 2014 #23

What about the 7.5% FICA tax that ends at @$113,000?? kentuck Mar 2014 #45

That is for Social Security. It is a good idea to upaloopa Mar 2014 #48

Isn't it included in the general fund? kentuck Mar 2014 #61

It is a loan upaloopa Mar 2014 #62

FICA should not have a cutoff limit seveneyes Mar 2014 #84

No flat tax rate, period. And a 10% property tax rate will hurt all families who've managed pnwmom Mar 2014 #59

That is lunacy gerogie2 Mar 2014 #24

NO! jzola Mar 2014 #25

NO NO NO! hunter Mar 2014 #26

No - a flat tax is regressive. GoneOffShore Mar 2014 #27

fuck no cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #28

I'm against a flat tax. But the game is already rigged. lob1 Mar 2014 #29

No. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #30

'A'ole makemake! KamaAina Mar 2014 #31

No nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #32

Nah.. but get rid of the income tax SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #33

It depends on what you mean by "flat tax" Swede Atlanta Mar 2014 #35

My son in law favors a national sales tax and the elimination of the IRS. ... spin Mar 2014 #36

The so-called Fair Tax is also a joke Gothmog Mar 2014 #43

not if we start throwing them in prison for doing it Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #54

How do we do that if they use the legal loopholes they helped to create to avoid paying taxes? (n/t) spin Mar 2014 #69

Close loopholes. Imprison accordingly Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #74

Great idea except that the rich contribute to the campaigns of those we elect ... spin Mar 2014 #75

The flat tax sounds like a bad idea Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2014 #37

Answers. Chan790 Mar 2014 #38

Absolutely NOT! The poor get screwed and the rich do better. nt my 2 cents. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #39

A flat tax would have to be at least a 29% tax on every item sold, food, clothing, everything sold CK_John Mar 2014 #41

This, Sir Is a Not Just No But Fuck No Proposition The Magistrate Mar 2014 #42

Nope Bettie Mar 2014 #44

This OP needs a POLL. tosh Mar 2014 #46

No and fuck no. I don't get the get rid of the IRS piece either TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #49

NO, A consumption tax would choke the poor/middle while allowing the rich to roll their NightWatcher Mar 2014 #50

I'll play jmowreader Mar 2014 #51

NO. Flat taxes are a simplistic approach that shafts the 99% and favors the rich. n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #52

NOT A CHANCE! BillZBubb Mar 2014 #53

Now that we have that settled. kentuck Mar 2014 #55

Any tax plan that includes "abolishing the IRS" as a positive is already starting out silly. Captain Stern Mar 2014 #56

No shenmue Mar 2014 #57

We wouldn't have a balanced budget without a tax rate that was much too high pnwmom Mar 2014 #58

I prefer a staggered tax JJChambers Mar 2014 #60

I do agree with this with one stipulation. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #83

Yes, exactly. JJChambers Mar 2014 #87

No. old guy Mar 2014 #63

No, try again... XRubicon Mar 2014 #67

The "Flat tax" is extremely regressive. Nearly as much so as the "sales tax only" Doctor_J Mar 2014 #68

Not no... TroglodyteScholar Mar 2014 #70

Shit no! nt Earth_First Mar 2014 #71

Sure, absolutely! Trailrider1951 Mar 2014 #72

That's not flat badtoworse Mar 2014 #89

absolutely not quaker bill Mar 2014 #73

No. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #76

Nope. cui bono Mar 2014 #77

yes, but... RedstDem Mar 2014 #78

Personally seveneyes Mar 2014 #79

fuck no. n/t lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #80

Heeeeell NO! liberalmuse Mar 2014 #81

No sakabatou Mar 2014 #82

No, you need progressivity. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #85

No !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #86

we already have a flat tax in ten states ... MindMover Mar 2014 #88

no what we need is a wealth tax frwrfpos Mar 2014 #90

We'd still need somebody to process the tax returns krispos42 Mar 2014 #91

No! truebluegreen Mar 2014 #92

No. Euphoria Mar 2014 #93

I think it could work actually. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #94

Bad Idea. Really Really bad idea donheld Mar 2014 #95