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Bluenorthwest

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50. Conservationists and Conservatives are not the same thing.

Sat Mar 8, 2014, 09:50 AM

Mar 2014

Conservative: : believing in the value of established and traditional practices in politics and society

Conservationist: someone who works to protect animals, plants, and natural resources or to prevent the loss or waste of natural resources

So 'preserving natural resources' is not a conservative act but a conservationist act. That's why so many conservatives pillage those resources. That's why they call liberals 'tree huggers'. Liberals are conservationists.

Conservatism seeks to maintain the status quo, traditions, methods, and most of all status relationships. Those in power remain in power, those with advantages retain those advantages. 'We have always strip mined without regulation and we always must strip mine without regulation'. Conservatives are not conservationists.

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What Does it Mean to be a Conservative Democrat? [View all] RainDog Mar 2014 OP

Haven't such persons migrated over to the other side by now? Loudly Mar 2014 #1

As I said, I voted for one RainDog Mar 2014 #6

Perhaps intense dislike of Wall Street and bankers in general. amandabeech Mar 2014 #11

I think a majority of Americans dislike Wall Street and big banks in general RainDog Mar 2014 #12

I couldn't agree with you more! n/t amandabeech Mar 2014 #21

Yes, they've migrated to the other party CreekDog Mar 2014 #51

A Republican who does not like to be on the losing team. eom PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #2

They tend to be black and white thinkers quinnox Mar 2014 #3

That is not true Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #13

You're right Scootaloo Mar 2014 #31

bot true Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #43

I agree with that. Autumn Mar 2014 #53

Cons defined RobertEarl Mar 2014 #4

It means we need more than two parties. 1000words Mar 2014 #5

I'm with you on that RainDog Mar 2014 #8

Then we need a new system of government Scootaloo Mar 2014 #34

Sounds good to me 1000words Mar 2014 #71

THat would necessitate a constitutional overhaul Scootaloo Mar 2014 #72

I wouldn't rule out revolution, in the end ... 1000words Mar 2014 #73

I've been called conservative before JJChambers Mar 2014 #7

So, on most social issues you're liberal RainDog Mar 2014 #10

Continuing JJChambers Mar 2014 #18

Thanks for your reply! RainDog Mar 2014 #25

oh yeah... RainDog Mar 2014 #39

I'm in there someplace with a few qualifications. proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #27

I'm a rotten speller too n/t RainDog Mar 2014 #38

Sounds like you're a typical American. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #33

You might be a left-libertarian, possibly. This was me about 5 years ago..... AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #75

Rural electrification and the advent of farm support (Ag Extension service initially) brought bluestate10 Mar 2014 #9

Do you understand history of Dems in the south? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #15

Anybody who says that they're more 'pro-America' than other Americans TransitJohn Mar 2014 #14

That one made me laugh RainDog Mar 2014 #16

That is logically just not true Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #17

I know some guys who identify as conservative Democrats, Jenoch Mar 2014 #19

I wouldn't generalize so much from just one person's response CAG Mar 2014 #20

I agree. That's why I asked what it meant to others here RainDog Mar 2014 #22

If you envision a continuum pipoman Mar 2014 #23

Yet polls continue to indicate Americans are more liberal than either political party RainDog Mar 2014 #24

Yes proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #29

To many on DU, "conservative" means pro-RKBA. Pure & simple. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #57

I asked this in terms of economics. HughBeaumont Mar 2014 #26

thanks for the link! RainDog Mar 2014 #28

I support minimum income with some qualifications proudretiredvet Mar 2014 #30

A basic minimum goes to everyone RainDog Mar 2014 #36

Even that bastard Milton Friedman toyed with the idea. HughBeaumont Mar 2014 #55

I was reading one of the "respectable" business sites RainDog Mar 2014 #62

I'm pro free-trade and capitalism but 100% anti-gun. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #32

I thought it meant that one dressed in suits hollysmom Mar 2014 #35

What's wasteful govt spending? RainDog Mar 2014 #37

wasteful hollysmom Mar 2014 #44

Thanks for taking the time to reply! RainDog Mar 2014 #49

Always delighted to converse with someone who is pleasant and intelligent. curious hollysmom Mar 2014 #68

I'm just asking others to see where we differ RainDog Mar 2014 #83

Most of those I have encountered were basically evangelical christian union members Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #40

"Conservative Democrat" like the phrase "enlightened conservative" is a non sequitur Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #41

i dont like conservatism MFM008 Mar 2014 #42

I consider myself a liberal democrat... Jasana Mar 2014 #45

Can't say I disagree with any of these, old guy Mar 2014 #63

The Democratic Party as a whole... MellowDem Mar 2014 #46

This thread is very useful to me Token Republican Mar 2014 #47

Thanks for your reply! RainDog Mar 2014 #48

Conservationists and Conservatives are not the same thing. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #50

+100 billh58 Mar 2014 #67

I grew up in coal country with conservative Democrats Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #52

When 9-11 happened RainDog Mar 2014 #61

Right Wing Talk Radio should be outlawed as hate speech. Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #66

The anti-Americanism charge is entirely fair, I'm afraid. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #54

I favor guaranteed health care, strong envioronmental Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #56

there's a first time for everything... RainDog Mar 2014 #59

No blame cast... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #65

I think it largely is shorthand for agree with Reagan but not the southern strategy. TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #58

Where I live, it means you are a racist. WhiteTara Mar 2014 #60

Oxymoron billh58 Mar 2014 #64

Historical note . . . markpkessinger Mar 2014 #74

Both of those Democrats billh58 Mar 2014 #78

I would say most conservative Dems TNLib Mar 2014 #69

Can anyone speak to the logistics of prarie-dog shooting? DireStrike Mar 2014 #70

It is worth remembering . . . markpkessinger Mar 2014 #76

If that person's hive-mind keeps them from even questioning why things like cattle should be farmed/ villager Mar 2014 #77

Not everyone that self-identifies as 'liberal' or 'conservative' has the exact same beliefs. Captain Stern Mar 2014 #79

Yeah. RainDog Mar 2014 #84

Hmmm. Phlem Mar 2014 #80

A republiCON butterfly77 Mar 2014 #81

my guess would be jesus-y gun folks from rural areas. dionysus Mar 2014 #82