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TampaAnimusVortex

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25. It's not about conspiracy theory, its about logic.

Sun Mar 9, 2014, 09:54 AM

Mar 2014

If your putting all your trust in the main stream news sources, I suggest you read this and understand the implications in how that can affect us, with out military/industrial complex:

http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6

and even local news is scripted almost word for word...

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/83754317/

So... we can see that mainstream media is hardly an authoritative source anymore...

So, with that debunked - you have to return to the actual logic of the situation. You don't get to wave your hand away at all the countervailing evidence. - like the billions the US has been shoveling into the country... exactly for what reason? Were told the reason is "building democratic institutions"... What does that mean exactly? Who knows?

Is Russian pouring money into Mexico and Canada? I doubt it, but it's possible... I'm open for any evidence you want to present.

Is it strategically important that the US and Europe destabilize the Ukraine? You bet your ass it is. There are a lot of great resources in the country - which is why the trade agreements with the rest of NATO were being set in place (and blew up tail end of last year)

Also it's important for NATO to have Ukraine as a buffer for Europe as far as land incursions and to develop a containment policy against Russia.

Or...

A lot of people just got angry that their politicians are crooks... Right... Because that's news

Trust your brain... not what your told.

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