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hunter

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141. When a big "anchor store" at one end of a mall goes out of business...
Sun Mar 9, 2014, 01:40 PM
Mar 2014

... we could turn it into apartments. Such apartments might be especially attractive to elderly people who could go walking every day without driving or putting up with bad weather.

Outdoors, a portion of the parking lot might be turned into parks and gardens.

Generally it takes less energy to repurpose buildings than to tear them down and start over.

With adequate pensions, Social Security, housing subsidies, and medical care, there could be lively markets inside the mall for residents and their visitors.

I remember what a treat it was when I was a little kid to walk with my grandma to the local dime store for ice cream, and sometimes even lunch at the counter. She lived in a traditional city setting of the sort that is rare now, especially in the suburbs.

The traditional mall is a dying breed. Agschmid Mar 2014 #1
What is a lifestyle center? BainsBane Mar 2014 #3
This... Agschmid Mar 2014 #6
I can't imagine that concept ever being successful sufrommich Mar 2014 #11
You know it's crazy but it is! Agschmid Mar 2014 #13
How do those stores do compared to inclosed malls sufrommich Mar 2014 #22
Financially they still do well. Agschmid Mar 2014 #26
It's my personal experience that when I go to those SheilaT Mar 2014 #50
That's what I do, as well Stargazer09 Mar 2014 #52
I do not browse stores. AlbertCat Mar 2014 #72
That's why I don't mind them. However, I am not their target customer... Phentex Mar 2014 #115
I like that... Agschmid Mar 2014 #127
I used to like malls, found them very convenient SheilaT Mar 2014 #140
Mall of America-only for Nordstrom Lifelong Protester Mar 2014 #181
Interesting. I went to Target and Best Buy SheilaT Mar 2014 #185
I think you and I are similar . . . and anomalous! hatrack Mar 2014 #188
Mashpee Commons... MADem Mar 2014 #87
Its a good example... Agschmid Mar 2014 #99
It is--thanks! nt MADem Mar 2014 #107
I need to check out Derby St. At some point. Agschmid Mar 2014 #108
The Wrentham outlet malls is like this. And it booms during all seasons. boston bean Mar 2014 #53
It already is... except they call them outdoor malls, not "lifestyle centers." ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #93
There's one in Estero, Fl. between Fort Myers and Naples that has condos available. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #191
Santana Row in San Jose KamaAina Mar 2014 #193
Interesting. Marketplaces have evolved over thousands of years and will continue >>> KittyWampus Mar 2014 #25
The lifestyle centers will all be converted to big casinos. valerief Mar 2014 #112
My local So Cal Outlets Centre (no weather problem, place is huge 160+ stores) is always packed... Tikki Mar 2014 #122
I cannot stand those places... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #138
This message was self-deleted by its author edhopper Mar 2014 #4
Ahhh lifestyle center... penultimate Mar 2014 #57
I think that's more of a developer "chichi" term. Here,it's an outdoor mall. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #97
It is a marketing term...but it does indicate there may be more options than shopping. Agschmid Mar 2014 #106
That appears to be the standard. It is the same here and at the Mall at Partridge Creek. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #114
The thing I'm thinking of is titled town square... penultimate Mar 2014 #131
Yup that is one! Agschmid Mar 2014 #139
"Traditional" Android3.14 Mar 2014 #88
It says occasionally people need to buy things... Agschmid Mar 2014 #91
I'm thinking I have better things to do on a Sunday Android3.14 Mar 2014 #120
Having all that space dedicated to nothing but shopping... gulliver Mar 2014 #146
I like Sbarro - it's not the suckiest chain-pizza out there... Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #2
The founders of Sbarro are from Naples, Italy--they make an edible product! nt MADem Mar 2014 #90
As does their CEO. AAO Mar 2014 #126
The concept of The Mall is dying because Fat Americans don't want to walk... Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #5
Wilding flash mobs might also have something to do with it. n/t Loudly Mar 2014 #7
That's it! Who wants to go anywhere where people suddenly start dancing? Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #16
Are they doing the tango or the waltz? FrodosPet Mar 2014 #95
Hmmm... Agschmid Mar 2014 #8
Many malls have been converted back to strip-malls... Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #12
Yes it's called a lifestyle center, but I doubt it has much to do with trans fats. Agschmid Mar 2014 #15
I guess overpriced stores selling nothing anyone wanted had nothing to do with it. hobbit709 Mar 2014 #9
That was a factor, but the malls in the 70's/80's thrived... Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #14
Overpriced crap tends to thrive a lot better JoeyT Mar 2014 #58
The decline of the middle class causes the decline of malls and mid-priced restaurants nt LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #121
Bingo marions ghost Mar 2014 #184
Back then there were REAL stores.. freebrew Mar 2014 #73
Sears was apparently destroyed when they put a rabid objectivist in charge DireStrike Mar 2014 #80
Damn! Thanks for that... freebrew Mar 2014 #96
Half of the century-old homes you pass are Sears homes. Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #101
I didn't know that. That's pretty cool. DireStrike Mar 2014 #104
I don't know about "half" PSPS Mar 2014 #128
Too bad - Craftsman tools were outstanding for decades hatrack Mar 2014 #189
There are two different kinds of "outlet" stores joeglow3 Mar 2014 #86
Most outlet stores are not "last years styles" anymore... Agschmid Mar 2014 #103
That is what I said. joeglow3 Mar 2014 #105
That Did It! Kilgore Mar 2014 #160
I guess overpriced stores selling nothing anyone wanted had nothing to do with it. AlbertCat Mar 2014 #75
LOL, classy as usual. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #182
Read an article earlier this week... mikeargo Mar 2014 #10
46 square feet isn't realy that much... reACTIONary Mar 2014 #100
I live in Vermont's Northeast Kingdom and close by I have two shockingly good pizza places cali Mar 2014 #17
Do you prefer thin crust? Less cheese or more? KittyWampus Mar 2014 #21
yep, think crust. also local fresh ingredients cali Mar 2014 #27
think crust? AAO Mar 2014 #125
If you get to Burlington try BitMe! It is very good! Agschmid Mar 2014 #109
I kinda liked malls. but some of the reasons i used to go to kill an afternoon are gone KG Mar 2014 #18
I can't remember the last time I've seen a book sufrommich Mar 2014 #24
I can't remember the last time I saw a bookstore. Chan790 Mar 2014 #136
add to that no movie theater. Much of the fun has left the mall. It's now a splayed out shrine to Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #59
That's weird jmowreader Mar 2014 #192
I read that when many of the malls in the 80's started out.. nessa Mar 2014 #19
retail outlets on Long Island are busy. Charter buses come from all over to them. They are huge>>> KittyWampus Mar 2014 #20
Malls are dying because the middle class is dying Yavin4 Mar 2014 #23
Now this is the real reason. Agschmid Mar 2014 #28
Nope, malls are dying because I can get pretty much whatever I want on Amazon, Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #31
It's funny.... Agschmid Mar 2014 #33
If you need small electronic components edhopper Mar 2014 #35
For me I enjoy the experience of being in a mall. Agschmid Mar 2014 #36
I always feel like I'm being watched when I go to a mall... penultimate Mar 2014 #64
Now you know you are! Agschmid Mar 2014 #65
Best Buy doesn't sell any of that stuff. alarimer Mar 2014 #77
You should consider shopping online for environmental reasons. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #39
I drive anyway, so personally for me it is a moot point. Agschmid Mar 2014 #46
Amazon uses A LOT of packaging Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #92
I'd love to see them really play on a level field, with tax rates, etc. Agschmid Mar 2014 #110
I never on-line shop bigwillq Mar 2014 #41
Shopping at the mall is a much different retail experience from online buying. Yavin4 Mar 2014 #40
I don't see how people can't afford to go to the mall penultimate Mar 2014 #62
Which is why the malls aren't dead, but declining Hippo_Tron Mar 2014 #94
I never shop abelenkpe Mar 2014 #117
Yes, the internet killed malls. And the changing culture of the 90s when the California malls anneboleyn Mar 2014 #176
That is both obvious edhopper Mar 2014 #32
Yup. ctsnowman Mar 2014 #67
Not true at all... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #144
Malls are dying because they suck Orrex Mar 2014 #29
Sbarro's food reeks of canned garlic. I have never actually tasted it.... Walk away Mar 2014 #30
Could be edhopper Mar 2014 #34
Maybe... Walk away Mar 2014 #83
Sbarro was the only mall food with a vegetarian choice - undeterred Mar 2014 #37
They also had a stuffed spinach pizza. MoonchildCA Mar 2014 #129
Some malls will live on, others no Freddie Mar 2014 #38
At what point do we fredamae Mar 2014 #42
I never took to malls from the time of their inception. Cleita Mar 2014 #43
I almost never go to a Mall or hardly any store anymore. As long as people are allowed Bandit Mar 2014 #44
I first tried Sbarro at the Times Square location. xfundy Mar 2014 #45
If you are in NYC edhopper Mar 2014 #47
Good god, this is how the Olive Garden threads started! Flee for your lives! JHB Mar 2014 #98
Apologies edhopper Mar 2014 #102
In NYC, I always eat Grimaldi's in Brooklyn or any of the locations. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #68
Try these TomClash Mar 2014 #84
Pizza will never die in NYC! merrily Mar 2014 #48
Yes edhopper Mar 2014 #49
I've had pizza in a chain once in my life. merrily Mar 2014 #51
P.S. I don't like upscale pizza, either. merrily Mar 2014 #56
I believe they closed in the Village. edhopper Mar 2014 #111
Great. merrily Mar 2014 #190
In NY some of those restaurants serve a pizza edhopper Mar 2014 #113
Then, I'll just have to go to Naples. merrily Mar 2014 #187
Memories of John's from my childhood HockeyMom Mar 2014 #61
I guess I missed the booth era. I saw only tables. merrily Mar 2014 #71
I think so HockeyMom Mar 2014 #79
Oh, good. merrily Mar 2014 #81
Interesting. I have only found one pizza joint outside the NYC area Zorra Mar 2014 #133
Here in Winthrop, Maine,... MarianJack Mar 2014 #54
Meh. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #55
Nothing beats NY Mom and Pop pizza HockeyMom Mar 2014 #60
Malls are dying because everything is overpriced crap in them. JoeyT Mar 2014 #63
On the main topic, I think what is going on is TV, the internet and video games. merrily Mar 2014 #66
What happened to "The Mall" followed what happened to "big box stores" as the town square searched.. MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #69
"That’s because most of its stores are in malls" AlbertCat Mar 2014 #70
I didn't know that malls were dying tavalon Mar 2014 #74
Free 30-day trial of Amazon Prime available here! Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #76
We have frequented our local Pizza shop for many years. rickford66 Mar 2014 #78
I could give you a whole list of reasons of why the malls are dying but I'm on my mackerel Mar 2014 #82
They are closing 155 stores.... MADem Mar 2014 #85
Never went to the mall as a kid but we have plenty of pizza here in Brooklyn. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #89
Yes edhopper Mar 2014 #118
I went to the mall yesterday - it was fairly crowded. wercal Mar 2014 #116
Very true. Agschmid Mar 2014 #132
The rent is too damn high! FarCenter Mar 2014 #119
The mall died over a decade ago Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #123
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #124
The Suburban Mall Concept killed many downtowns ... Auggie Mar 2014 #130
I will not shed a tear if Sbarros goes away Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #134
My local mall is always packed. nt lunamagica Mar 2014 #135
This makes me want to go to the mall and eat at Sbarro. MadrasT Mar 2014 #137
When a big "anchor store" at one end of a mall goes out of business... hunter Mar 2014 #141
Thank God! The mall was one of the worst things to happen to America. Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #142
Order online instead? HockeyMom Mar 2014 #148
There are other options than the mall... Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #149
Like Outside Strip Malls? HockeyMom Mar 2014 #173
Malls are 'dying', for the same reason the economy is so moribund Trajan Mar 2014 #143
Malls dying? LOL! SOMEone hasn't been to So. Cal. lately. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #145
Rancho Cucamonga... Agschmid Mar 2014 #147
The only town around with an all-vegan grocery store Codeine Mar 2014 #156
LOL there are numerous references to the place in cartoons from the 40's on. cherokeeprogressive Mar 2014 #162
And the Galleria at Tyler is jumping as well. Codeine Mar 2014 #155
But as Cat Stevens sang edhopper Mar 2014 #150
The Westfield Mall in San Francisco is doing fine. RandySF Mar 2014 #151
I'll probably get mocked for saying so Aerows Mar 2014 #152
Where do you live edhopper Mar 2014 #154
The South Aerows Mar 2014 #157
Can't comment on Little Caesar's edhopper Mar 2014 #158
I really do like it Aerows Mar 2014 #159
Unless you had it from one of the great edhopper Mar 2014 #161
To each their own Aerows Mar 2014 #163
I'm not saying you are wrong to prefer deep dish. edhopper Mar 2014 #166
Suggestions? n/t Aerows Mar 2014 #167
All the ones I know edhopper Mar 2014 #169
I suppose I should fess up Aerows Mar 2014 #170
The friends I have in the South edhopper Mar 2014 #171
If you can't find a good restaurant in New Orleans Aerows Mar 2014 #172
That is true edhopper Mar 2014 #174
I used to eat at Louisiana Pizza Kitchen on Bourbon (French Quarter) Aerows Mar 2014 #175
hope you can find a good one edhopper Mar 2014 #177
Nothing beats a muffelata Aerows Mar 2014 #179
When I was there last edhopper Mar 2014 #180
I like it too, guilty pleasure. Agschmid Mar 2014 #165
Lol. Agschmid Mar 2014 #164
Loved Little Caesars Freddie Mar 2014 #186
"the grove" in los angeles is hugely popular Liberal_in_LA Mar 2014 #153
I was at a mall recently and everywhere there was a seating area there was a sign Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2014 #168
The enclosed malls here are good madville Mar 2014 #178
My local mall is dying. GoCubsGo Mar 2014 #183
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