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mackattack

(344 posts)
7. They hated democracy
Fri Mar 23, 2012, 09:25 PM
Mar 2012

Saying someone was in favor of a democracy was an insult. That's why they added all the limitations like, "only land-owning males" and what not. They said everyone else was a fool. Now we need to put this into historical perspective. Germany up until after WWI said votes fro people with a university degree counted as two votes. People feared the uneducated underclass because it was believed this group was more susceptible to demagoguery.

Thats why we have congress and stuff like the electoral college.


I think your mistake is in word choice not substance. They did hate the ultra-conservative folks who told them what to do. Baptists shouldnt have to pray the rosary and say the Hail Mary like catholics do. One example of stuff they were against. Yet the GOP today says everyone has to conform to one religion?!?!

No thanks, Ill worhsip or not worship in any way I see fit. GOP doesnt get that. Most GOP supporters are historically illiterate. Sean Hannity tells them what happened.....barf.

Cheers from the Great Lakes!

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The Founders did not hate government. HubertHeaver Mar 2012 #1
Can we stop with making the U.S. Constitution a sacramental doctrine? CTyankee Mar 2012 #2
NO !!! - And, Yes... WillyT Mar 2012 #11
I don't want to get into a long rant on this except to say that what you are saying strikes CTyankee Mar 2012 #17
You Make Great Points... But I Don't See A Solution Here... WillyT Mar 2012 #19
You know, I'm frustrated! I'm just at complete odds with a U.S. Constitution that just doesn't CTyankee Mar 2012 #20
Yep, your frustration is pretty clear malthaussen Mar 2012 #22
Mal, we do not "know it all." That has been our problem all along. We think we "got it right," CTyankee Mar 2012 #23
Also means "to bring out of shadow," malthaussen Mar 2012 #26
Very good analysis. I would like to know more from Con Law experts who I admire and respect, CTyankee Mar 2012 #27
Sounds good to me malthaussen Mar 2012 #28
glad you looked it up. I'm going to do so this afternoon. But I had a question for you. CTyankee Mar 2012 #29
Wasn't claiming "fatal" ambiguities malthaussen Mar 2012 #34
You make a point about "discrimination" and I would wonder further about what Justice Ginsburg CTyankee Mar 2012 #35
The idea of a constitutional convention in this day and age would be terrifying Posteritatis Mar 2012 #30
some of us would say we don't like living under the current "result" of our current Constitution. CTyankee Mar 2012 #32
They hated their ultra-conservative Monarchy "govt", but chose to love Democracy. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #3
Then why didn't they make us a Democracy? Ter Mar 2012 #6
They hated democracy mackattack Mar 2012 #7
You're applying todays standards of democracy to the idea of democracy over 200 years ago. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #12
No, Im not mackattack Mar 2012 #13
Well, true only to the extent that Madison and others did not like Greek style direct democracy. CTyankee Mar 2012 #18
The founders did not hate government but they did distrust it. former9thward Mar 2012 #4
It baffles me that people have so much trouble with the distinction you just noted Posteritatis Mar 2012 #31
Wow....no mackattack Mar 2012 #5
Hard to imagine Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #8
They would have asked "What's a bathtub?" malthaussen Mar 2012 #14
Yep, they did/do. Just finished CARO's LBJ bio: Senate is a BLOCKAGE (kill PROGRESS) n/t UTUSN Mar 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Mar 2012 #10
Which Founders? malthaussen Mar 2012 #15
If America today tried to form a United States chnoutte Mar 2012 #16
Not sure the FFs would even recognize a multicultural society such as the U.S. CTyankee Mar 2012 #25
Hamilton, Washington, & Madison built an activist federal government Bucky Mar 2012 #21
Apparently they hated government so much Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #24
Clearly not. They did have a clear suspicion of concentration of power that TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #33
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