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The Founders did not hate government. HubertHeaver Mar 2012 #1
Can we stop with making the U.S. Constitution a sacramental doctrine? CTyankee Mar 2012 #2
NO !!! - And, Yes... WillyT Mar 2012 #11
I don't want to get into a long rant on this except to say that what you are saying strikes CTyankee Mar 2012 #17
You Make Great Points... But I Don't See A Solution Here... WillyT Mar 2012 #19
You know, I'm frustrated! I'm just at complete odds with a U.S. Constitution that just doesn't CTyankee Mar 2012 #20
Yep, your frustration is pretty clear malthaussen Mar 2012 #22
Mal, we do not "know it all." That has been our problem all along. We think we "got it right," CTyankee Mar 2012 #23
Also means "to bring out of shadow," malthaussen Mar 2012 #26
Very good analysis. I would like to know more from Con Law experts who I admire and respect, CTyankee Mar 2012 #27
Sounds good to me malthaussen Mar 2012 #28
glad you looked it up. I'm going to do so this afternoon. But I had a question for you. CTyankee Mar 2012 #29
Wasn't claiming "fatal" ambiguities malthaussen Mar 2012 #34
You make a point about "discrimination" and I would wonder further about what Justice Ginsburg CTyankee Mar 2012 #35
The idea of a constitutional convention in this day and age would be terrifying Posteritatis Mar 2012 #30
some of us would say we don't like living under the current "result" of our current Constitution. CTyankee Mar 2012 #32
They hated their ultra-conservative Monarchy "govt", but chose to love Democracy. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #3
Then why didn't they make us a Democracy? Ter Mar 2012 #6
They hated democracy mackattack Mar 2012 #7
You're applying todays standards of democracy to the idea of democracy over 200 years ago. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #12
No, Im not mackattack Mar 2012 #13
Well, true only to the extent that Madison and others did not like Greek style direct democracy. CTyankee Mar 2012 #18
The founders did not hate government but they did distrust it. former9thward Mar 2012 #4
It baffles me that people have so much trouble with the distinction you just noted Posteritatis Mar 2012 #31
Wow....no mackattack Mar 2012 #5
Hard to imagine Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #8
They would have asked "What's a bathtub?" malthaussen Mar 2012 #14
Yep, they did/do. Just finished CARO's LBJ bio: Senate is a BLOCKAGE (kill PROGRESS) n/t UTUSN Mar 2012 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Mar 2012 #10
Which Founders? malthaussen Mar 2012 #15
If America today tried to form a United States chnoutte Mar 2012 #16
Not sure the FFs would even recognize a multicultural society such as the U.S. CTyankee Mar 2012 #25
Hamilton, Washington, & Madison built an activist federal government Bucky Mar 2012 #21
Apparently they hated government so much Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #24
Clearly not. They did have a clear suspicion of concentration of power that TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #33
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