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MADem

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43. Well, I think the Italians are just making shit up as they go along.

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #25)

Sun Mar 9, 2014, 05:21 PM

Mar 2014

Not just the apron noted elsewhere, they also make David penis shorts, with the member silkscreened into an anatomically correct locale.

And I don't think they are angry about the product. After all, it's not like they are anti-gun in Italy--at least not in terms of crafting and selling them. They make a huge amount of cash from weapons that they sell all over the world.

What they might have a problem with, though, is people cutting into THEIR market share.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Italian_submachine_guns

http://www.beretta.com/en-us/

Interesting article and commentary: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bs-ed-beretta-brady-20140213%2C0%2C4806019.story

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2014-02-21/news/bs-ed-italy-20140221_1_double-standard-u-s-gun-violence-gun-manufacturers

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Italy up in arms over Michelangelo's David rifle advert (BBC) [View all] eppur_se_muova Mar 2014 OP

That asshole company showed massicve insensitivity and stupidity. HERVEPA Mar 2014 #1

Nonsense pipoman Mar 2014 #7

For guns???? HERVEPA Mar 2014 #10

You might find it hard to believe or understand that some people revere and love art... CTyankee Mar 2014 #17

Apparently Crepuscular Mar 2014 #30

I know someone who has one of those--they're HILARIOUS! nt MADem Mar 2014 #33

Sure and some post cards there are just close ups of David's genitals... CTyankee Mar 2014 #38

ArmaLite should Louvre David alone pinboy3niner Mar 2014 #2

Does the Italian government have a copyright in the USA? NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #3

The U.S. is a party to the Berne Convention jsr Mar 2014 #4

I can't copyright images of a work of art that old. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #5

Yes, it's too old in this case. jsr Mar 2014 #80

I wanna Nefertiti T! Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #75

It has been used in other ads pipoman Mar 2014 #6

David is a bit different. He is seen as a symbol of Florence, which is why Michelangelo chose to CTyankee Mar 2014 #26

They haven't complained before, though, so it makes their complaint now a bit, er, spurious! nt MADem Mar 2014 #35

well, they probably don't like it being used to sell guns. I'll be going on my fifth trip to Italy CTyankee Mar 2014 #37

I lived in Italy for nearly a decade. MADem Mar 2014 #46

Oh, but David holding a sling is fine? Orrex Mar 2014 #8

Well, maybe if it's a generic sling ... eppur_se_muova Mar 2014 #9

the last time I checked, the sling was present in the Old Testament story, a gun wasn't... CTyankee Mar 2014 #16

Heretic! Orrex Mar 2014 #41

Now, that's a catchy rendering! CTyankee Mar 2014 #42

This SHOULD pretty well kill this thread, but I see it did not. Good post none the less. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #66

Maybe David needed a "penis extension" and "high capacity magazine." Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #77

Nucking fun guts . . . nt flamin lib Mar 2014 #11

And did the ad include the famous chant question everything Mar 2014 #12

Selective outrage Crepuscular Mar 2014 #13

One is about killing, one is about humour muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #14

Um, no Crepuscular Mar 2014 #19

The product, designed to kill, may not be legal in Italy muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #20

It was a US company produced ad intended for US viewing. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #23

If you don't give a fuck, then don't comment on it muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #25

The internet goes worldwide. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #29

So what if it goes world wide? You're here, what's it to you? Why do you care? CTyankee Mar 2014 #50

Because other American's on DU are towing their line. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #56

Oh, good lord. We don't have control of other countries laws and culture? Why do you think we do? CTyankee Mar 2014 #57

Their laws and culture don't apply here. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #58

I'm not advocating censorship in the U.S. but speaking on behalf of the people of Italy, esp. CTyankee Mar 2014 #59

Well, I think the Italians are just making shit up as they go along. MADem Mar 2014 #43

It seems to me that the crux of the problem is with this particular image. CTyankee Mar 2014 #51

I've seen commercials in Italy with a talking Mona Lisa. MADem Mar 2014 #60

well, as I've said, I think it is because of the product being sold...didn't seem "right" CTyankee Mar 2014 #61

They don't mind the product--so long as it's THEIRS. MADem Mar 2014 #62

I was wondering if you were in Catania with the USAF station there... CTyankee Mar 2014 #64

Agggh--no! MADem Mar 2014 #73

Taormina is breathtaking and Palermo turned out to be a world class city... CTyankee Mar 2014 #83

This and so much more MADem JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #70

I can remember being in a restaurant during the "good" years.... MADem Mar 2014 #71

Now see JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #74

Well, my dear....where you stand depends, as always, on where you sit!! MADem Mar 2014 #76

I highly doubt Crepuscular Mar 2014 #24

Then their aim is crap, isn't it? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #27

But.....the Italians are arms dealers. MADem Mar 2014 #45

But they have more taste than to call a gun a 'work of art' muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #47

Well, Beretta flogs guns mightily over here, and, as the article I provided notes, MADem Mar 2014 #48

I watched some of the Italian game shows when I was visiting Sicily. Pretty tasteless... CTyankee Mar 2014 #49

They're also serious about their water! They have some of the best aqua minerale in the world, IMO MADem Mar 2014 #63

what a sweet commercial! I love it...nice find... CTyankee Mar 2014 #65

Ever heard of Gun Valley? nt Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #78

I imagine there are a few, select, sub-literate idiots who conflate 'concern' and 'outrage' LanternWaste Mar 2014 #72

Wikipedia knows - they have to be careful about photos muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #15

Thank you for that. Very interesting. CTyankee Mar 2014 #22

Well, for most of our history we have always been regarded as crude by Europeans NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #28

I think there are many great reasons to love freedom of speech, but desecretion of world class CTyankee Mar 2014 #32

I never noticed before, but David looks an awful lot like Peter Dinklage in a moonsuit... petronius Mar 2014 #54

This is typical of billh58 Mar 2014 #18

The statue has been in ads for underwear, pants, tires, etc NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #34

Art is art. Don't like it, don't look, etc (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2014 #21

3/4 of "fart" is "art." Why the dust-up? Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #79

Because Europe has so much more class than the USA Token Republican Mar 2014 #31

It is explained in muriel volestrangler's post. It explains the Italians' position CTyankee Mar 2014 #36

Italy has some pretty backwards laws/rules. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #39

OK, great example of investigation of crash scenes. CTyankee Mar 2014 #40

Sylvia Poggioli on NPR said the Italian government ... gulliver Mar 2014 #44

the image Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #52

Riddle me this, Batman......... LongTomH Mar 2014 #53

Fifty caliber Shooters Association oneshooter Mar 2014 #55

Now that's funny. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #67

The VPC has kept a running list of crimes committed with a .50 caliber rifle, Bazinga Mar 2014 #68

Or, "don't show up to a gun fight with .50 BMG." You might stmble over it. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #81

It looks ridiculous! sibelian Mar 2014 #69

He's seventeen feet high, if I remember rightly! So I guess that IS a "big gun"... MADem Mar 2014 #82