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In reply to the discussion: Most of us here were against the invasion of Iraq, correct? [View all]rdharma
(6,057 posts)62. The entire mess started with the "putsch"... nt
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What does that have to do with your position on Crimea and Russian intervention?
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#45
Who said anything about a "military" coup? A putsch headed by fascist thugs also qualifies......
rdharma
Mar 2014
#54
I really think that person is putting us on. I dont think anyone could actually believe those
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#113
Well under that thinking, I'm sure he would have supported the US invasion of Iraq.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#115
I just pointed out that very thing to a Russian expat attempting to defend Putin on FB.
stevenleser
Mar 2014
#120
Are we still droning people in other parts of the world using 9/11/War on Terror, where
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#24
That's a good question. I might think I do, but then I know that people would have the right to
sabrina 1
Mar 2014
#65
The relationship between a people and its elected officials is far more complex...
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#9
Why's it OK if our politicians do stuff like this but we must speak up if foreign politicians do it?
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#14
In the here and now our own criminals are on the damn TV telling us how to run things still
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#22
Ignoring what your own dog has done makes you someone committed to principles how?
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#30
Of course if you don't punish your dog's behavior you are doing nothing to change it
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#36
I can swat the government on its behind for pooping in the neighbors yard...
LanternWaste
Mar 2014
#104
The point is that we may speak up no matter what government is doing bad things.
amandabeech
Mar 2014
#100
"Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggy until you can find a rock." Will Rogers
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#75
I think it is possible to oppose all dump taking dogs as a citizen of the planet
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#17
The nationalist part is where you ignore the fact your own dog remains unpunished
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#21
No, we should whack *our* dog's nose, that would make it appear we were serious about this behavior
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#58
Nope, your claim is nationalism in the negative, mine is that of a citizen of earth who
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#85
I can see it from both sides and my citizen of earth side is disgusted and opposed too
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#86
Why not just say that then? Because using your other string of logic, you have no
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#91
Because I'm imperfect and don't always express myself in the fashion others would have of me
Fumesucker
Mar 2014
#93
After the west heaped blame on Russia for the conflict, it ignores new evidence of Georgia's crimes
polly7
Mar 2014
#142
I can honestly say yes to that. The day it happened I sat watching the TV with my family. While they
jwirr
Mar 2014
#5
Mine was a policy issue. I thought we should fight terrorism by using the law enforcement agencies.
jwirr
Mar 2014
#56
I don't understand the argument about lacking moral authority to criticize Russia over Ukraine
Proud Liberal Dem
Mar 2014
#10
There were actually refererndums that were already scheduled as to full Crimean autonomy.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#27
"Referendums that were sanctioned by the Ukrainian government" effectively went out the window......
rdharma
Mar 2014
#43
I don't understand your point at all. President Obama, VP Biden, Sec of State Kerry
Bandit
Mar 2014
#66
is it incumbent upon every nation to remain silent regarding the aggression of any other country?
LanternWaste
Mar 2014
#108
This is stupid. Crimea wants to be part of Russia - let it be part of Russia.
reformist2
Mar 2014
#63
There was already an election scheduled for who would govern Ukraine. Why was that abandoned?
JVS
Mar 2014
#143
Obama simply followed the George Fucking Bush timetable for getting out of Iraq
Lasher
Mar 2014
#147
Nope, it doesn't work that way. And "do as we say, not as we do", most people don't find that
quinnox
Mar 2014
#76
Your point one is in need of context. 'Mostly Russian' because after WW2 Crimea's
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2014
#87
Zorra Iraq site:democraticunderground.com (about 420,000 results in 0.48 seconds) nt
Zorra
Mar 2014
#84
You're right. It's one thing if Kerry condemns them and another if Rumsfeld does it....
Spitfire of ATJ
Mar 2014
#92
So you are claiming that since Obama is ONLY mass slaughtering civilians with drones...
Demo_Chris
Mar 2014
#99
I have a question, if our only warm water seaport was in Crimea what would we do? I don't think
doc03
Mar 2014
#106
Sochi can accommodate two cruise ships, they need a warm water port for their navy
doc03
Mar 2014
#146
The problem is, people are conflating intervention and military intervention.
Tommy_Carcetti
Mar 2014
#118
The **Moral Authority** of the United States was greatly diminished by illegal invasion & torture.
Martin Eden
Mar 2014
#112
Us as a country are a laugh and counter productive. Us as world citizens is a different matter
on point
Mar 2014
#148
Whatever (questionable) moral authority we ever had drowned in the Gulf of Tonkin.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#134