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26. And in fact father tried to contact his son, but son didn't want to see his father.

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Adam Lanza’s Father, in First Public Comments, Says ‘You Can’t Get Any More Evil’ [View all] SecularMotion Mar 2014 OP

any mention about all the guns ? JI7 Mar 2014 #1

That's my question as well... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #5

Guns Are NEVER To Blame SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #63

Umm, he wasn't the one with the guns...It's was his son's first victim... Ecumenist Mar 2014 #81

you're Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #90

guns, smuns. What father says this about his own son? How about roguevalley Mar 2014 #98

my thoughts exactly Tumbulu Mar 2014 #104

I think if my child Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #130

Do you even know if he has guns? pnwmom Mar 2014 #103

As I recall, it was the mother who was the gun nut. WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #85

That shows how Lanza got to the state where he thought BainsBane Mar 2014 #2

What leads you to believe he was an "awful father?" Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #7

He said his son was evil. He hadn't seen him for two years. BainsBane Mar 2014 #16

Huh? And you know that ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2014 #25

And in fact father tried to contact his son, but son didn't want to see his father. LisaL Mar 2014 #26

well, hell, that's GOT to be dad's fault. That would make me so f&&&ing angry I ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2014 #30

Might want to consider using the sarcasm thingy missingthebigdog Mar 2014 #62

Yeah, a sarcasm alert would really be a good idea. Paladin Mar 2014 #76

Quite probably true. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2014 #89

I know what is in the news article BainsBane Mar 2014 #58

Did you read the article? Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #91

he is. All of this may be true but what he said is very awful. roguevalley Mar 2014 #99

What do you Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #131

it is an old expression. It means sticking the knife in and twisting it after is doesn't roguevalley Mar 2014 #152

I had never heard that expression Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #188

I agree. It seemed such a betrayal for him to say what he said. Like killing the kid roguevalley Mar 2014 #194

Just pointing out something here. He said Adam was evil *after* Adam had committed the murders. yodermon Mar 2014 #106

yep, I am with you nt Tumbulu Mar 2014 #107

with all due respect, which article did you read? CreekDog Mar 2014 #123

I read the long one in the newyorker and this one Tumbulu Mar 2014 #149

he wasn't allowed to see him CreekDog Mar 2014 #122

I never saw Adam Lanza and I unapologetically declare that he was evil Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #140

Maybe... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #14

I'm saying a father who calls his child evil is a bad father BainsBane Mar 2014 #17

And not even the mother-of-the-year candidate who had custody was able to counteract ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #18

The mother is dead BainsBane Mar 2014 #72

No offense, but your argument is pretty over the top. Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #75

Good lord BainsBane Mar 2014 #78

Please. Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #79

Your contention is mentally ill people are evil? BainsBane Mar 2014 #83

Yeah, I really said that... Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #86

Save your breath. It's what she does. She will quite literally make shit up ... 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #135

And, thinks everyone pintobean Mar 2014 #144

Jesus fucking Christ that is amazing joeglow3 Mar 2014 #95

We have some genuinely talented people on DU Fumesucker Mar 2014 #112

I don't know how I would react if it were my child. LiberalAndProud Mar 2014 #84

Is it disavowing a child to recognize when they did something terrible? haele Mar 2014 #186

Murdering 20 children is pretty damned evil. His father is 100% correct. arcane1 Mar 2014 #54

Incorrect....His Father Had Always Been Into Guns SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #65

Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't aware of that, since so many stories were about his mom. arcane1 Mar 2014 #70

Many people grow up in households with guns, and manage to do so safely and without ever ... markpkessinger Mar 2014 #96

Blood or not.. Lost_Count Mar 2014 #56

blame the dad for the killing of 20 children CreekDog Mar 2014 #124

Wow, you are now an expert on him. How kind of you! nt Logical Mar 2014 #34

Actually I recounted what I read in the OP BainsBane Mar 2014 #74

I believe he meant the acts couldn't be more evil- from the rest of the article, it seems what bettyellen Mar 2014 #118

You seem completely incapable of placing blame where it belongs. Bonobo Mar 2014 #168

And yet we know nothing about the living situation. chrisa Mar 2014 #187

Um, Peter, no one is born evil KamaAina Mar 2014 #3

How did he raise him? I didn't catch that in the article. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #8

Well, I don't know, but it couldn't have been pretty KamaAina Mar 2014 #9

They had two children. As far as I can tell the older one is doing fine. LisaL Mar 2014 #24

Perhaps Mom and/or Dad turned their aggression towards Adam KamaAina Mar 2014 #27

Did you read the interview? LisaL Mar 2014 #29

Or, perhaps the coddling rewarded his abnormal behavior KamaAina Mar 2014 #31

Adam had no empathy. LisaL Mar 2014 #33

He was failed on so many levels. That article revealed quite a bit. kcr Mar 2014 #159

I don't think anything would have worked on Adam. LisaL Mar 2014 #201

Well, which is it? kcr Mar 2014 #202

Science and medicine right now don't amount to all that much when it comes to LisaL Mar 2014 #208

'the other one is fine' is NEVER a good response laundry_queen Mar 2014 #87

Here's a link to the New Yorker article. You should read it. He's not scapegoating Adam. smokey nj Mar 2014 #93

I read it. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #97

... all of which is still a FAR FAR FUCKING CRY from accidentally raising a mass murderer. yodermon Mar 2014 #109

I don't think it is a 'far' cry. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #115

Sorry, I don't agree and I know what a dysfunctional family looks like. I grew up in a big one. smokey nj Mar 2014 #129

I grew up with 2 narcissistic parents. That doesn't strike me as the main issue even if true- KittyWampus Mar 2014 #136

I thought that was odd, too. It's a way of denying responsibility, really. reformist2 Mar 2014 #10

How would you "help him?" LisaL Mar 2014 #22

Actually, they did a hell of a lot trying to help him -nt Bonx Mar 2014 #38

Not in the last few years. The father didn't even visit him anymore. reformist2 Mar 2014 #41

Father didn't visit him because Adam didn't want to see him. LisaL Mar 2014 #43

His son refused to see him Bonx Mar 2014 #49

I wouldn't have given him access to an arsenal of weapons. Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #73

He refused to see his brother too HockeyMom Mar 2014 #77

yes, that would have been a far better response nt Tumbulu Mar 2014 #110

You know, I have to disagree. I think a few people are born evil. Shrike47 Mar 2014 #15

Well, the example of dick cheney comes to mind. calimary Mar 2014 #37

The article I remember (though not its source) catrose Mar 2014 #60

And how do you know that nobody is born evil? LisaL Mar 2014 #20

I'm sure he beats himself up every day, much to the delight of the pitchfork-and-torch crowd. chrisa Mar 2014 #189

Wonder why he had not seen his son in two years treestar Mar 2014 #4

His son as an adult and didn't want to see him. LisaL Mar 2014 #19

Wasn't he 19? treestar Mar 2014 #23

He was 20. LisaL Mar 2014 #28

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If only there was an article detailing that... Bonx Mar 2014 #32

Very long, but read enough to see treestar Mar 2014 #44

Of course he should have never been near any guns. LisaL Mar 2014 #51

Off topic but I thought that was precisely the reason people keep guns in the house. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #6

I see and understand your point, and my idea is this, Bazinga Mar 2014 #132

i blame him Adam LAnza and both of his parents, they knew he had problems and didn't seem JI7 Mar 2014 #11

How easy for you to say..... Logical Mar 2014 #36

one has to be a fucked up gun nut to keep arms stocked , and this is after there have already JI7 Mar 2014 #45

She devoted her life to taking care of him and doing whatever he wanted. LisaL Mar 2014 #48

LOL! reformist2 Mar 2014 #128

There are 300 million guns, how often does this happen? nt Logical Mar 2014 #55

Once is too Goddamned often. (nt) Paladin Mar 2014 #69

AMEN Paladin Ecumenist Mar 2014 #100

correct answer! Tumbulu Mar 2014 #111

Oh really? Have you destroyed your guns? aikoaiko Mar 2014 #127

Not even a good try on your part, AA. Paladin Mar 2014 #139

I think it was more of a "I'm sure that my child will never have a normal life". Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #82

Why are there two version of the OP? Shouldn't they be combined into one? stopbush Mar 2014 #12

What magic do you have to merge them? nt Logical Mar 2014 #39

I believe the mods have that power. stopbush Mar 2014 #80

Not any more. Jamastiene Mar 2014 #176

Link to the actual interviews B2G Mar 2014 #13

This is one of those things you wonder about if you are a parent. stevenleser Mar 2014 #21

I think about that all the time. And I'm a mother of two. calimary Mar 2014 #59

we just dont know MFM008 Mar 2014 #35

Good post..... Logical Mar 2014 #40

It's easy to see he should never have been near any guns. treestar Mar 2014 #46

Well everything is easy to see after it happened. nt Logical Mar 2014 #52

It's not easy to have anyone committed these days. LisaL Mar 2014 #42

we should know not to keep arms stocked up in the home if your kid has problems like this JI7 Mar 2014 #50

This is the best reply here, imo. pacalo Mar 2014 #94

Having him committed was probably not possible jbnow Mar 2014 #126

I Don't Know RobinA Mar 2014 #153

Hello, Mr. Lanza? Why did you and your wife keep so many GUNS within his reach? Hmm???? Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #47

THIS!!! SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #67

Agreed. laundry_queen Mar 2014 #88

No kidding. jsr Mar 2014 #105

Yes, great points! nt Tumbulu Mar 2014 #114

You should print this & mail it to Mr. Lanza Bonx Mar 2014 #141

I thought he had been away from the family for years and the guns were Nancy's. Packerowner740 Mar 2014 #220

Both parents were "into" guns, so Adam Lanza was raised with guns being a part of his life nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #234

I googled it and couldn't find anything Packerowner740 Mar 2014 #235

I don't recall where I read it, but his lady didn't turn overnight into a gun nut after divorce - Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #237

Thanks Packerowner740 Mar 2014 #238

A very good man, to take responsiblity for this quinnox Mar 2014 #53

The photos show daddy Lanza indoctrinating his son into the gun culture, like so many dads nowadays. Hoyt Mar 2014 #57

If that is the cause why aren't there 45 million shootings a year? (nt) The Straight Story Mar 2014 #61

same reason not every drunk driver will get in an accident, doesn't mean when there are accidents JI7 Mar 2014 #66

great reply! nt Tumbulu Mar 2014 #113

The gun crowd just doesn't get it. Why we keep coddling them is a mystery. Hoyt Mar 2014 #226

What photos? Packerowner740 Mar 2014 #222

Oh come on, don't play like you don't know about gun loving daddy/momma Lanza. Hoyt Mar 2014 #224

I know about mom, I had just never read or seen anything about dad Packerowner740 Mar 2014 #230

I admit to aching at the a despair based on "it must be something I did or didn't do" HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #64

Perhaps His Upbringing Amongst Gun Lovers? SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #68

In hindsight it all looks that way... HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #71

I agree about the guns being a bad idea, but Jamastiene Mar 2014 #177

He was diagnosed Sgent Mar 2014 #192

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Adam was not taking any drugs. Read the article. He refused to take any medication. LisaL Mar 2014 #120

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Incorrect? Read the freaking article. LisaL Mar 2014 #125

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Somebody here is ill-informed, but it's neither me nor the author of the article. LisaL Mar 2014 #154

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He wasn't on any meds kcr Mar 2014 #157

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Show me your sources then kcr Mar 2014 #160

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Well, no, that's not how it works kcr Mar 2014 #164

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I'm sorry. I'll have to see backup for that kcr Mar 2014 #169

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I do want to clarify though kcr Mar 2014 #161

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Agreed on the guns kcr Mar 2014 #165

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I have. Nothing says it takes years. kcr Mar 2014 #170

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I don't see it. kcr Mar 2014 #172

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Lanza was not on any drugs. LisaL Mar 2014 #198

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I think you're misunderstanding my point kcr Mar 2014 #205

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His biochemistry is not going to allow him to keep the drug in his system for years. LisaL Mar 2014 #213

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There is not enough tin foil in the world. LisaL Mar 2014 #231

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Adam Lanza WAS evil. MicaelS Mar 2014 #145

As a sibling to two very troubled men, Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #180

+10000. I'm aghast at the "experts" on this thread proclaiming guilt and assigning shame riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #182

30+ years later, Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #185

I'm deeply uncomfortable with the blanket critiques about the Lanza family riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #190

Our situation is more complex, Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #193

Thank you so much for this. I hope it sheds some light on family dynamics riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #195

Cruelty--AND self righteousness! nt tblue37 Mar 2014 #228

Is your brother still alive? In one article I read about one victim's family's visit to tblue37 Mar 2014 #196

I was friends with the minister for the Klebold family, Rev Don Marxhausen riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #197

In case you haven't seen it yet Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #207

He is still alive. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #204

As a general attitude our society seems interested only in revenge. tblue37 Mar 2014 #216

You definitely have the case identified - Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #219

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This is personal DonCoquixote Mar 2014 #102

Thanks for the post, DonCoquixote! I'm sure you've educated a lot of people with this. n/t pnwmom Mar 2014 #108

That's interesting... and 2naSalit Mar 2014 #116

DonCoquixote... Dorian Gray Mar 2014 #133

I'd also like to thank you for your input. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #137

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #146

I don't get why some people are saying Asperger's had anything to do with Jamastiene Mar 2014 #178

That "no empathy" crap about Aspies really bothers me eridani Mar 2014 #229

for this Peter Lanza to wish that his son had never been born Tumbulu Mar 2014 #117

Of course Peter Lanza wishes his son had never been born. LisaL Mar 2014 #119

It seems very telling to me that no where in the interview Tumbulu Mar 2014 #155

But the child he had was clearly abnormal from very early age. LisaL Mar 2014 #199

I find it hard to believe Tumbulu Mar 2014 #221

I think the article makes it clear he was always abnormal. LisaL Mar 2014 #232

there was nothing in the article that said Peter Lanza had any guns at all CreekDog Mar 2014 #142

there were many other articles Tumbulu Mar 2014 #150

interesting, i didn't know that. CreekDog Mar 2014 #209

Lots of experts in this thread. Inkfreak Mar 2014 #134

You are lucky. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #181

Thanks for sharing something so personal. Inkfreak Mar 2014 #183

Fuck Adam Lanza. Fuck him to hell. I don't feel sorry for him even a tiny bit cali Mar 2014 #138

Deadbeat dad, clueless mom. They failed Adam. alp227 Mar 2014 #143

The father was not a deadbeat dad. Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2014 #148

Everyone keeps bringing up the guns. geomon666 Mar 2014 #147

Did you forget Jamastiene Mar 2014 #179

I was hoping I didn't need it. n/t geomon666 Mar 2014 #217

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I see that the pitchfork mob is out again. chrisa Mar 2014 #191

I wish that Adam was never born as well nt MrScorpio Mar 2014 #200

This makes me sad. liberalmuse Mar 2014 #203

Stay together for the sake of the children? HockeyMom Mar 2014 #206

That is not what I meant at all. liberalmuse Mar 2014 #225

Adam was an adult when he made the decision to stop contact with his father riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #215

Okay... liberalmuse Mar 2014 #227

That certainly is true. Packerowner740 Mar 2014 #218

Man, there are a lot of fucking ghouls on DU lately. flvegan Mar 2014 #223

When every single thing has to be twisted to fit a specific agenda it gets really crazy Fumesucker Mar 2014 #233