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83. He and Greenwald have stated over and over...that they didn't want to expose names...

Mon Mar 10, 2014, 05:27 PM

Mar 2014

It's the programs they are interested in exposing. And, by exposing the programs that affect all the people they are spying on here in the USA and all over the world...that hopefully the security can be fixed so that companies are not scooping up private information on citizens and storing it indefintely in these giant warehouses that are being built by the NSA to store everything we write and post on line (including on social media) and DU.

Check out the link I gave you which gives info about the worst of this starting after "9/11" and Bush so you will see this isn't about Obama but about the NSA Spying on Citizens that Obama hasn't been able to stop and in fact that these agencies who are payed with taxpayer money are almost going Rogue in contracting out the information they collect on us to Private Companies now (who aren't accountable to Govt. Oversight)...which is how Snowden got his info and why he was so upset that he started to document it.

He wasn't interested in OUTING PEOPLE but the SYSTEMS in our Government and Private Companies who were abusing Power by targeting ALL OF US!

Please see the link from EFF that I posted to you for info below in this thread.

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the idiotic attacks on Snowden show exactly how petty and pathetic those folks are [View all] cali Mar 2014 OP

All I've wanted to do from day one Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #1

Nuance is important. iandhr Mar 2014 #4

Thanks.... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #124

Best god damn post I've read all day taterguy Mar 2014 #288

A lot of people's stories do not jibe. truedelphi Mar 2014 #8

What 'lucrative contracts' are involved with copying phone metadata records? randome Mar 2014 #15

I think you need to check out this article: truedelphi Mar 2014 #35

Check Mate for another "idiotic" talking point. bvar22 Mar 2014 #67

+100 nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #110

Notice reply 128, a few posts lower than yours. truedelphi Mar 2014 #131

Bizarre. bvar22 Mar 2014 #172

The argument is that no one needs a multi-billion dollar data center to store metadata records. randome Mar 2014 #179

I'll bet you a dollar to a dime that our Meta_Data WILL indeed be stored there? bvar22 Mar 2014 #194

Oh, come on, they will probably also store manuals and calendars and paperclips there. randome Mar 2014 #258

Yep marions ghost Mar 2014 #254

Thank you sir! n/t defacto7 Mar 2014 #231

+1 a whole bunch! Enthusiast Mar 2014 #235

What does this have to do with metadata? You're making quite an assumption there. randome Mar 2014 #128

Actually, it's encrypted. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #149

Encrypted, compressed, existing in a state of quantum flux. randome Mar 2014 #155

You do realize how much energy defacto7 Mar 2014 #233

+1 Enthusiast Mar 2014 #236

Why dont you get some facts and come back? nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #127

Anyone who profits from policies they have any influence over, should leave office. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #270

So for this totally illegal program Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #40

Here is the flaw in the ointment of your logic: truedelphi Mar 2014 #70

And I've maintained from the start that despite the "show" Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #92

Well it could be that if we went after every single one of the guilty, we truedelphi Mar 2014 #101

Really? freebrew Mar 2014 #256

He and Greenwald have stated over and over...that they didn't want to expose names... KoKo Mar 2014 #83

Did you get a chance to watch this week's "The Good Wife." truedelphi Mar 2014 #96

I'm aware of their stated reasons Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #123

Clearly, Snowden isn't finished. bvar22 Mar 2014 #97

^^^^^^^ n/t truedelphi Mar 2014 #102

^^^^^^This is the correct answer.^^^^^ woo me with science Mar 2014 #107

Well I for one hope I'm not drawing Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #108

+1 jsr Mar 2014 #190

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That's the one ^ defacto7 Mar 2014 #234

Yes!! nt Mojorabbit Mar 2014 #266

I have a feeling that Snowden is not the only one who had/has serious problems with sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #272

So, Snowden has "much much more info", and he's holed up in Moscow. George II Mar 2014 #280

I expect Snowden to continue doing exactly what Whistle Blowers do. bvar22 Mar 2014 #284

His existence in Russia is as a guest of the Russian government. George II Mar 2014 #287

And yet those parallels exist. bvar22 Mar 2014 #292

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Fuck the "only metadata" talking point. We are way past "only metadata". It was a bullshit point GoneFishin Mar 2014 #276

Yes indeedy. When even Hollywood movie star Shia LeBoeuf can explain that truedelphi Mar 2014 #290

What are your questions about the parts of his story which don't jibe, though. KoKo Mar 2014 #12

I just didn't want to type out dozens of multi-part questions Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #48

Here's a Great Link with a Video and lots of Resources you can check out: KoKo Mar 2014 #64

Thank you, I've seen it Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #76

I think your real question is: "With all this info coming out...Why is our Government KoKo Mar 2014 #100

I take a lot of things seriously that others don't Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #113

I can understand that...but, you didn't answer my question about what I asked you... KoKo Mar 2014 #164

Thanks for that link. n/t truedelphi Mar 2014 #87

Thank you for the link. nt woo me with science Mar 2014 #112

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Then that's not an "idiotic attack". There are plenty "idiotic attacks" of Snowden on DU though. cui bono Mar 2014 #46

Look, you either jump on the bandwagon and support Snowden wholeheartedly, without any reservation MADem Mar 2014 #137

If baseless smears and personal attacks against Snowden count as "conscious thought" PoliticalPothead Mar 2014 #166

Whatever. MADem Mar 2014 #257

day one kardonb Mar 2014 #210

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We live in a big world. There are competing powers both inside and outside America. CJCRANE Mar 2014 #2

The answer is easy for Omydar: none. Maedhros Mar 2014 #39

It is simplistic thinking RobertEarl Mar 2014 #3

Meh, that's not true treestar Mar 2014 #27

What you describe may apply to a very tiny minority of individuals who oppose NSA Maedhros Mar 2014 #44

You negate any serious points you might have by using the term ODS. cui bono Mar 2014 #49

as if it doesn't exist! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #114

Not on DU from what I've seen. I see a lot of well thought out criticisms of policy. cui bono Mar 2014 #145

OOOOOH of course not VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #184

I purposely refrain from using Obamabot, which would be the equivalent of ODS cui bono Mar 2014 #238

Yet you just gave a prime example showing it *is* true! nt delrem Mar 2014 #153

ODS is behind the whole thing! bvar22 Mar 2014 #198

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Obama Ben Snowden? L0oniX Mar 2014 #193

+1 They also show how creepy, dishonest, and authoritarian our current politicos have become, woo me with science Mar 2014 #5

I said this on another thread and will repeat herebut I truly hope if I ever do something wonderful riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #6

Snowden: My Leak Has Benefited 'Every Society In The World' ProSense Mar 2014 #7

I'm beginning to think you're a piece of code that just posts links according to keywords. Marr Mar 2014 #10

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #13

That second sentiment sure comes full circle then. Who switched on the Obamabot? Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #18

LOL! Leave Snowden, hero, alone. ProSense Mar 2014 #19

Well at least the blue links and wall of text that isn't yours seems to have lessened. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #23

Blah. Stop making fun of Snowden ProSense Mar 2014 #28

Bored. Adieu. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #29

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #30

They appear on most, and often instigate, threads about him... so... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #31

Temper temper! nt Logical Mar 2014 #79

I smell desperation. And your rude emoticon is unbecoming. Just sayin. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #129

Thank you for addressing my concerns about Fuck Snowden. Marr Mar 2014 #25

good one G_j Mar 2014 #36

Our rights have been violated and you don't give a shit........ BlueJac Mar 2014 #37

I "don't give a shit" about Snowden. ProSense Mar 2014 #41

that's your best joke of all G_j Mar 2014 #57

Hey, I laugh at Rand Paul and other clowns too. ProSense Mar 2014 #59

Ahhhh, Pro, there is only ONE thing to give you for that little gem! Pholus Mar 2014 #111

AND, I'm laughing at your nonsense! BlueJac Mar 2014 #177

Your ROFLMAO smilie made me realize how wrong I have been! truedelphi Mar 2014 #99

Our rights have not been violated treestar Mar 2014 #68

really? G_j Mar 2014 #77

Exhibit C woo me with science Mar 2014 #80

thank you for this G_j Mar 2014 #88

I think we're up to Exhibit F or G - something like that. God knows they're trying everything riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #89

Gee woo that's a lot of reading. And it doesn't quite fit the talking points. Autumn Mar 2014 #94

Maybe those who have their heads up where the sun don't shine truedelphi Mar 2014 #109

Are you sure? We gays have plenty of rights according to you, but none are violated? Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #132

the irony is here you are doing the same thing to pro treestar Mar 2014 #22

Um, no. Seriously, what was the "message" in the post? cui bono Mar 2014 #56

what's wrong with attacking Snowy, from everything to his crimes to treestar Mar 2014 #66

One, the attacks are meant to distract from the real issue, the unconstitutional spying. cui bono Mar 2014 #74

the OP is not about NSA, it's about "pathetic" DUers and their "idiotic" attacks. treestar Mar 2014 #84

Exactly. Thank you for making my point. cui bono Mar 2014 #93

Yes your "point" was to name call other DU'rs that don't subscribe to your beliefs... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #118

Results of your jury, VR.. Cha Mar 2014 #229

I can see why you would say that though I have to say that all the Snowden attacks are refuted cui bono Mar 2014 #240

Yes because some people will alert on anyone that dares not pledge fealty to Snowden... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #274

Proved what point? n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #283

I made a similar point not too long ago mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #72

DOS basic, I love it! nt Logical Mar 2014 #91

Actually Commodore 64 basic mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #106

I loved my C64. I learned 6502 assembler on it. Miss those days actually. More geeky! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #139

Wow, same here! mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #175

I remember COMPUTE magazine had a lot of.... Logical Mar 2014 #183

LOL, you nailed it! Almost a parody at this point! nt Logical Mar 2014 #90

Exhibit A woo me with science Mar 2014 #14

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #17

"Fuck 'em" is not a very nice thing to say. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #237

He really has an inflated sense of self doesn't he? Not a humble bone at all it seems... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #115

Ah the narcissist screed... Exhibit G or H I believe (losing count now) nt riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #117

Well you diagnosed it not I.... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #119

Really? Why don't you post your home phone numbers and contact lists? grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #207

Then why does he keep telling us how heroic he is? randome Mar 2014 #9

Because his 'idiotic" and "pathetic" fans think he's the savior. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #11

Read the Constitution......... BlueJac Mar 2014 #42

The Constitution say I shoud "defend" Snowden? ProSense Mar 2014 #43

Probable cause for snooping... BlueJac Mar 2014 #180

NonSense..... BlueJac Mar 2014 #181

The madder you get about this the more I think you know you.... Logical Mar 2014 #82

Exhibit B nt riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #16

You wound me. randome Mar 2014 #24

What does it matter? cui bono Mar 2014 #98

If Snowden wants to keep talking about himself, we can talk about him, too. randome Mar 2014 #126

Why would him talking about himself make people want to make "idiotic attacks" on him? cui bono Mar 2014 #133

It's fun! It's DU! We can talk about anything! randome Mar 2014 #138

majority of the stories about Snowden seem to be posted by those who fixate on the person... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #20

Irony thou art cruel! VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #122

Like the one in which you're posting? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #161

He keeps bringing himself to the forefront treestar Mar 2014 #21

Exhibit C riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #26

Nonsense. ProSense Mar 2014 #33

YEP. Rex Mar 2014 #141

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We can discuss phone metadata and Snowden in different threads. randome Mar 2014 #32

indeed it does.... mike_c Mar 2014 #34

And today's Wheel of Outrage lands on... Snowden haters!!... SidDithers Mar 2014 #38

It's not only the petulant and sub-literate who confuse concern with outrage...? LanternWaste Mar 2014 #47

Exhibit D nt riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #53

Horse homeopathy... SidDithers Mar 2014 #60

Olympic veterinarian recommendations. riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #62

Cui bono? Who benefits from the attacks on Snowden? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #45

Attacks on Snowden, Manning, Assange et al. serve only to provide cover for the criminals Maedhros Mar 2014 #104

Criminals? OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #167

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #221

You really need to learn about whistle blowers. n/t cui bono Mar 2014 #242

You rang? cui bono Mar 2014 #241

Those "Folks" support a Government which Illegally Spies on its Citizens fascisthunter Mar 2014 #50

Unless it's the other party in office Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #261

With all the attacks on Obama, why should Snowden be off limits? ecstatic Mar 2014 #51

I agree. If you put yourself in the public eye, you are subject to criticism. This was his choice stevenleser Mar 2014 #81

Ahh...true..but people who Whistle Blow also have a right to THEIR SUPPORTERS! KoKo Mar 2014 #188

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Somebody put you on ignore for this. And folks here call Obama supporters "swooners" Number23 Mar 2014 #225

Prediction: ProSense Mar 2014 #52

A story typically is best understood in its entirety struggle4progress Mar 2014 #54

That is way too much reality and facts for the Snowden fan club. stevenleser Mar 2014 #86

IMO it can be explained by a politically naive, and intellectually lazy, replacement mechanism struggle4progress Mar 2014 #121

Well put. I think Orwell would call these kinds of belief systems Positive and Negative Nationalism stevenleser Mar 2014 #140

Nicely done. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #178

That MIGHT be true if there was some balance by the Snowden haters riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #125

The goal, of requiring our thinking be based upon actual facts, is to understand the world struggle4progress Mar 2014 #199

You all are the ones who perpetually derail any convo about NSA spying with Snowden attacks riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #202

A story typically is best understood in its entirety struggle4progress Mar 2014 #204

"tricks coworkers into providing passwords" - puhleez markpkessinger Mar 2014 #134

The coworkers were employees of a contractor, and, yes, it is a problem struggle4progress Mar 2014 #182

Speaking of facts... you all seem to conveniently ignore this over and over and over riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #203

That's an interesting story. But, in fact, it undermines itself somewhat by simultaneously claiming struggle4progress Mar 2014 #205

yeah but he didn't "trick" anyone to get it. nt. druidity33 Mar 2014 #249

Psst... cali... This Is What It's About For Many People Here... From Reuters: WillyT Mar 2014 #55

put the Tiger Beat crowd on IGNORE, at least until 2017 Skittles Mar 2014 #58

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #61

and by the way Skittles Mar 2014 #63

Problem with Snow fans is the same can be said about them. treestar Mar 2014 #69

nope that is not what it is at all Skittles Mar 2014 #73

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one can believe that Snowden is a narcisstic horse's ass while geek tragedy Mar 2014 #65

correct Skittles Mar 2014 #71

exactly fascisthunter Mar 2014 #78

+1000 Many clueless posters miss that whole point! nt Logical Mar 2014 #85

It's about misdirection and derailing discussion. That's why they do it. Marr Mar 2014 #75

And this same group attacks Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning repeatedly, the very same way. Zorra Mar 2014 #95

And this same group defends every corporate outrage coming out of this administration. woo me with science Mar 2014 #105

You mean there could be SwankyXomb Mar 2014 #185

I'm not convinced they are professional Skittles Mar 2014 #232

It's hard to believe that anyone would pay for such shoddy work. QC Mar 2014 #267

Professional doesn't have to be smart. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #285

"I'm so happy every day I wake up and Obama is my president!!!" Skittles Mar 2014 #286

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I think there are less than 10. bvar22 Mar 2014 #278

Personalities Be Damned tea and oranges Mar 2014 #103

Welcome to DU marions ghost Mar 2014 #264

Thanks tea and oranges Mar 2014 #275

Snowden knowingly commited a crime! BAPhill Mar 2014 #116

I assume you think Ellsberg belongs in jail as well . . . markpkessinger Mar 2014 #130

And I assume you treat all issues with a lack of nuance as well? stevenleser Mar 2014 #142

Did Ellsberg.. BAPhill Mar 2014 #147

Ellsberg disagrees n/t markpkessinger Mar 2014 #159

Bernstein disagrees with Ellsberg. randome Mar 2014 #162

Snowden, the individual, appears to have committed a crime and belongs in jail. Maedhros Mar 2014 #171

Does seem to be some obvious disconnect there.....but, then... KoKo Mar 2014 #189

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Ditto marions ghost Mar 2014 #268

Yeah, and Obama violated his oath to defend the constitution by allowing this and asking for cui bono Mar 2014 #239

Here you go, cali.... ReRe Mar 2014 #120

What set off the Idiots Attack! alarm today? DesMoinesDem Mar 2014 #135

Ah but you know the narrative is to distract and disrupt. Rex Mar 2014 #136

Pretty much, noise is the objective. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #152

Then why do you keep harping on Snowden? albino65 Mar 2014 #143

When people tout Snowden as a hero worthy of this and that award Sheepshank Mar 2014 #144

Even the attendees at SXSW mocked him! randome Mar 2014 #146

This just in. This just in. You don't have to be at SXSW to tweet a question. DesMoinesDem Mar 2014 #154

I stand corrected! randome Mar 2014 #157

You mean NSA apologists exist outside of DU?? I never would have guessed that. DesMoinesDem Mar 2014 #160

Is it possible to simultaneously think that Snowden is a borderline narcissist War Horse Mar 2014 #148

I, personally, couldn't care less about who has my phone metadata records. randome Mar 2014 #151

So you don't care if the records say you called a suicide hotline number eridani Mar 2014 #196

I wouldn't give a shit. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #201

They allow employers and others to make guesses, correct or not n/t eridani Mar 2014 #248

I have always sailed through confrontations and misconceptions by staying calm and being forthright. randome Mar 2014 #259

Nice to have that level of privilege. Not everybody does. n/t eridani Mar 2014 #293

It isn't privilege. It's looking at things rationally and staying calm, no matter what. randome Mar 2014 #300

Anyone who can be that smug about blowing off the possiblility that a potential employer-- eridani Mar 2014 #310

I still wouldn't call it 'privilege' but, yes, I don't have the same experience as everyone else. randome Mar 2014 #311

You lost me at "Greenwald is a Libertarian". Maedhros Mar 2014 #173

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Ditto marions ghost Mar 2014 #269

Ignore is your friend, and this is a very appropriate case. bemildred Mar 2014 #150

well... KoKo Mar 2014 #158

It wastes your time, and that is one of the objectives of any troll. bemildred Mar 2014 #247

best advice yet bobduca Mar 2014 #228

Thanks. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #246

One more time. Snowden has done some good things and some bad things. pnwmom Mar 2014 #156

some secrets are supposed to be kept PatrynXX Mar 2014 #163

Huh? Maedhros Mar 2014 #174

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It is about the NSA BainsBane Mar 2014 #165

With someone like Snowden how do you separate fact from fiction? DCBob Mar 2014 #168

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The documents are real but his commentary is suspect. DCBob Mar 2014 #250

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The admin doesnt respond to every comment Mr Snowden makes.. DCBob Mar 2014 #296

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Are you drunk? They seldom make comments regarding this issue. DCBob Mar 2014 #298

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Seems to me anyone who finds that comment "hilariously funny" must be TUI. DCBob Mar 2014 #307

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coward! DCBob Mar 2014 #312

but he has boxes in his garage!!! warrprayer Mar 2014 #169

I would never accept a Christmas present delivered by a mailman who has a messy garage jsr Mar 2014 #192

It's the pathological uninformedness of his supporters at DU. idendoit Mar 2014 #170

... warrprayer Mar 2014 #176

In that case, it's your lucky day. You have the floor. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2014 #186

He can't get rid of that taste of Vlad. idendoit Mar 2014 #301

"Create a controversy". nt bemildred Mar 2014 #187

I'm sure if Snowden had used the Whistleblower Protection Act he'd be just fine and dandy. L0oniX Mar 2014 #195

That's because he's not a whistleblower. idendoit Mar 2014 #302

I never gave my permission for the NSA to take my info. Enjoy your hate. L0oniX Mar 2014 #314

You do recall that the metadata records are not yours, right? randome Mar 2014 #315

Surprise! You live in a republic. idendoit Mar 2014 #316

Blasphemy! Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #200

AND WORSE THAN THAT!!! He publicly attacked the policies of a Democratic administration! That will Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #209

Hi. My name is cui bono. cui bono Mar 2014 #244

The OP wasn't about providing evidence. It has been provided 1000 times already. cui bono Mar 2014 #243

I replied at least twice to woo me with science, never heard back. idendoit Mar 2014 #303

Maybe because you start off with "Snowden, that traitor". cui bono Mar 2014 #304

Have you got a good reason why other countries consider him one? idendoit Mar 2014 #305

Unrec marions ghost Mar 2014 #271

But, but, but...he's a libertarian!!!1!! Rand Paul likes him!!! He broke the law...to expose people AllyCat Mar 2014 #191

Zachary wildbilln864 Mar 2014 #197

Pretty sure both sides iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #206

K&R DeSwiss Mar 2014 #208

There Are 12 Million Stateless People Around The World, But Edward Snowden Isn�t One Of Them struggle4progress Mar 2014 #245

It is about two things Aerows Mar 2014 #219

"the idiotic attacks on Snowden show exactly how petty and pathetic those folks are".. that shows Cha Mar 2014 #230

False Equivalence. The two are not the same. bvar22 Mar 2014 #279

I'm putting the O/U for Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #251

It is Cali's "attention getter" Kolesar Mar 2014 #252

it's about democracy reddread Mar 2014 #253

Hell no. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2014 #255

WE WANT A DISCUSSION!!! Denzil_DC Mar 2014 #260

It's not about Snowden to them either Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #262

You are right, it shouldn't be about Snowden. Attacks or adoration. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #263

Two way street. Perhaps supporters should separate NSA revelations from Snowden and understand blm Mar 2014 #265

The idiocy is not to convince anyone of anything. woo me with science Mar 2014 #273

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, blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #277

It is sickening. dotymed Mar 2014 #281

No, he 'proved' that the NSA collects phone metadata with a warrant. randome Mar 2014 #282

Tep. Duh Yep. UhHuh. dotymed Mar 2014 #291

And those who characterize others who disagree with them as.... George II Mar 2014 #289

Accurate bobduca Mar 2014 #295

kick woo me with science Mar 2014 #299

Folks have every right to attack Snowden bigwillq Mar 2014 #308