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fightforfreedom123

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41. Kitty Genovese and Columbine

Reply to Joe the Revelator (Original post)

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 01:29 AM

Mar 2012

In reality people did call the cops about what was happening to Kitty Genovese. Some people did yell out their window at the killer.

During the Columbine killings, the brave cops who had guns, wandered around the parking lot looking for car bombs. One civilian that had a gun, hid.

The cops didn't go into the school until after telephone calls from civilians, stating the killers had committed suicide.

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Have we talked about the fact that even with this kid screaming for his life... [View all] Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 OP

As we don't know the exact situation, elleng Mar 2012 #1

people did call the cops, they were scared JI7 Mar 2012 #2

Eh, I guess...reminds me this though Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #3

I was just thinking of her. I remember arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #6

At least in that case someone called out for the attacker to stop...which he did... Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #7

actually the difference is that people did call for help unlike Kitty Genovese JI7 Mar 2012 #8

Do you think if some of the adults had arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #14

i think he might have shot them also maybe JI7 Mar 2012 #16

He seems like a weak person....almost like a kid..if an adult had told him to stop... Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #17

That was my impression of him too. n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #20

There wasn't much time between when they saw or heard the screams and the gunshot. sabrina 1 Mar 2012 #74

The 13 year old wanted to help him. NOLALady Mar 2012 #4

I have not heard about this... Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #5

The article I've seen claimed that this 13 year old saw a man in red shirt on the ground. LisaL Mar 2012 #55

Me too, it was the first thing I said when I heard the 13 year old's account. nt Ecumenist Mar 2012 #58

Here is the 13 year old talking about it.... Catherine Vincent Mar 2012 #75

Have we proven who was screaming? Tejas Mar 2012 #9

.....why would the guy with a gun be screaming for his life? Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #11

I'll take that as a "I have no clue". Tejas Mar 2012 #19

Respectfully I have to disagree, I don't think arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #24

Like the cop in the video, Tejas Mar 2012 #71

Anything is possible, point taken. :). n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #78

One witness said he was being emilyg Mar 2012 #21

Again, how does a guy who followed this kid, and who had a gun get attacked? Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #22

Not making an impilication - just emilyg Mar 2012 #66

uh, maybe he hadn't drawn his gun yet. Tejas Mar 2012 #72

Zimmerman stalked, followed, chased, accosted, and killed Trayvon Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #40

Just reporting what emilyg Mar 2012 #67

Respectfully, what's being reported in the Florida news stranger81 Mar 2012 #77

Exactly. jwirr Mar 2012 #68

Trayvon's mother recognized the screams on the 911 call, were her son. Vanje Mar 2012 #23

No, it hasn't been proven. LisaL Mar 2012 #52

Cite: Trayvon's Mother. She has said this on every single K Gardner Mar 2012 #64

MY BABY DIDN'T DO NOTHING!!!!1!1! (Facebook thug-pose incl) Tejas Mar 2012 #73

What does that photo prove,other than the fact that Martin... Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #79

They did better than in the Kitty Genovese case. But not by much. nt BOHICA12 Mar 2012 #10

Oh give me a freaking break. LisaL Mar 2012 #53

The whole thing makes me want to cry endlessly for him, his parents, our country. efhmc Mar 2012 #12

Devil's advocate here. flvegan Mar 2012 #13

From the 911 calls I heard, there was at least a couple of minutes between.... Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #15

Okay, but what would you have had someone do? flvegan Mar 2012 #28

Yelling at him, telling him to stop, breaking the power trip he was on. Nt Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #29

Laughable solution. flvegan Mar 2012 #31

I'm not in law enforcement, but how is it laughable? Or not a better option then doing nothing? Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #35

Lunatic, stop! flvegan Mar 2012 #42

Yes, it very well could have. Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #45

Hmmm. Laughable X 2. flvegan Mar 2012 #47

Thanks for your stunning insight, but you are completely ignoring human nature Joe the Revelator Mar 2012 #48

Dare I ask????? flvegan Mar 2012 #61

Quite right, elleng Mar 2012 #51

Nothing laughable at all. elleng Mar 2012 #49

So you see two people fighting, and your suggestion is what? LisaL Mar 2012 #54

Police officers, off duty, know how to handle situations like this. elleng Mar 2012 #56

They did call 911. LisaL Mar 2012 #60

Right, some did, elleng Mar 2012 #62

They could have decompressed the situation arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #18

How exactly does that work? Without possibly getting shot, too? n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #25

By asking questions and not breaking arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #27

Haven't broken up many fights have you? n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #32

Actually I have. n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #34

Somehow, I doubt it. n/t X_Digger Mar 2012 #37

Entirely your prerogative :). n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #43

I once stood with another woman between a fight between a bully and some innocent victims. I jwirr Mar 2012 #69

Yell, yes, call 911, yes. X_Digger Mar 2012 #70

Really? flvegan Mar 2012 #30

"They" aren't anything, since we are speaking arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #38

"They could have decompressed the situation" flvegan Mar 2012 #44

I would have soothed this heart with the power of interpretive dance. nt ZombieHorde Mar 2012 #33

I would pay to see that :). n/t arthritisR_US Mar 2012 #36

I hate you. flvegan Mar 2012 #46

Psycho with a gun willing to murder an unarmed kid half his size.... Cali_Democrat Mar 2012 #26

Damn shame nobody sniped the fucker. TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #39

Kitty Genovese and Columbine fightforfreedom123 Mar 2012 #41

Need I point out that Zimmerman had a gun? LisaL Mar 2012 #50

You know, I believe that had someone attempted to come to Trayvon's aid, their would have Ecumenist Mar 2012 #57

I think we would be talking about mass murder if people did come to Trevon's aid. Kalidurga Mar 2012 #63

I don't know. If you went into the street in the middle of an altercation, someone might feel ... Jim__ Mar 2012 #65

Several people called 911 because they heard someone screaming slackmaster Mar 2012 #76

Probably all happened too fast plus calling the police was the best way to help. nt Raine Mar 2012 #80