"These 17 Ads From The Past Will Probably Disgust You. Unless You Really Hate Women."

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41. Let's revisit what you have said

Shall we? You mention gradations, yet you can't figure out the basic outline.

Just what is it that you have taught your daughter that is so terrible about feminism?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/111413342

Since much of that thread is devoting to mocking my concerns about racist imagery, shall I conclude you tell her that women who study history and raises issues of racist historical context must be met with mockery, as others in that thread do?

Or is the more general horrors of radical feminism? Anti-men, anti-sex, etc?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/111411963

Is it that they support rape prevention campaigns? Want to see pedophiles prosecuted? Don't decide a woman is a liar just because she's a woman? We cant have that. We should ignore the court record and instead regurgitate the output of the publicity machine. Attack the victim's mother. http://www.democraticunderground.com/111412823 Like any of that has any bearing on whether an accused pedophile raped his seven year old daughter, as Dylan herself told multiple people following the assault, including a therapist hired by Allen himself, and outside the presence of her mother.

Or is it that radical feminists don't understand the most oppressed people in the world are white men?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/111413299
Because there is no International Men's Day.

And this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/111412985
God forbid anyone care about racism as opposed to the more important matters like the fact any random guy can't get a supermodel to date him. http://www.democraticunderground.com/111413228
http://www.democraticunderground.com/111411805

I know, the talking point that misandrist society is in conspiracy against so-called nice guys to keep them from getting the really hot girls. Any guy, just by virtue of being male, should be able to snag any supermodel he wants, even if he wallows in self-pity, regardless of his physical appearance, or if he has little to offer. That men are left to pick from the non-super model ugly chicks of the world just shows how horrible women are. And the fact that we have the nerve to not look like we are supposed to shows just how oppressed the poor menz who complain about such things are. This Onion piece gets it right: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024640908
That is how to succeed with women.

What you haven't figured out that what is responsible for much on your list of what men need is not the horrible women of the world but the patriarchy you insist doesn't exist. That same patriarchy that relegates women to second class citizenship creates those expectations of what it means to be a man. Yet you fight to defend that patriarchy by insisting it doesn't exist and in so doing prop up what you later identify as oppressing you. If you respected feminists enough to listen to what we have been saying for years, you would know that. Instead, you decide to make us the enemy and spend your days gossiping about us.

And that women cut their hair. Yes, that is pure misandry. To imagine that women have the right to choose their own hairstyle! http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1114&pid=12734 The only possible choice that a woman makes that can be respected is becoming a porn star, or so it seems by what your little group cares most about.
A random comment by a lesbian on a message board definitely shows that society is organized in order to persecute men. The fact is not all women are attracted to men, and they have a right not to be. And women have every right to be attracted to certain men and not others, just like men. That is not misandry. It is personal preference. Some of us make a point of avoiding men who hate our gender. We have the right to make any choices we want in regard to personal partners. That is not oppression. It is that we are autonomous human beings not compelled to tolerate people we don't like.


And let's not forget the greatest outrage to men ever: the rape prevention PSA that suggests that rapists rather than women are responsible for their own assault. The horror.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1114&pid=11093

Oh, and then there is this one, that the law governing rape really isn't relevant. What that little group thinks means much more than actual laws governing sexual assault. http://www.democraticunderground.com/111412049
That after claiming men didn't need any education about rape.

And back to the sacred genre of the rape porn. You won't defend mid-century advertising images, but your entire group went to the mat to defend the exalted genre of rape porn and to blatantly distort and make a mockery out of all objections raised to it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/111411514
It would be hard to imagine anyone misconstruing this argument any more if they deliberately sought to do so.

There are only two possible scenarios I see. 1) either you lack the ability to comprehend arguments advanced by feminists; 2) you don't respect women enough to bother trying to understand. Because you are as far off as anyone can be. You spend so much time reading HOF and worrying about what we write, yet understanding NONE of it. If you even got the basic outline right, you might have a basis to criticizing me about missing gradations. As it stands, I'm not really putting much stock in it.

If you decide you do want to start to understand this much maligned radical feminism, this is a good start.