"These 17 Ads From The Past Will Probably Disgust You. Unless You Really Hate Women."

[The Straight Story]

51. "I can think of little more hateful than that" Oh...I can

From calling fellow women pets to thinking that men just want to whack off to rape porn. Or that all men seem to do is whack off to any images of women.

You are quick here on call outs yet you leave out those in your own group and what they say about men in general.

If men here on Du were to say half the things about women we see in HOF there would be hell to pay.

"Most men are not in fact sexual predators."

Yeah, try telling that to your friends. I have been called all sorts of things here. The most common is misogynist - ie, I hate women.

Traveling on over to HOF what I see is a meta style group who spends it's time not on the history of feminism but rather spending a lot of time bashing men here on DU.

We hate women, we just want to jack off to rape videos, we hate women, we don't care about the issues women face, we don't get it, and so on.

I am on the side of women. I get it. From objectification to straight white male privilege. Girls in my classes in school heard all about the white European men of the world, what they did in history, and they (and others) never really heard about women or others in history. From commercials to tv shows to history classes we all grew up hearing about, mostly, just one group.

Women, others, got left out and screwed over. That was wrong. Is wrong.

But that does not mean everything is sexist.

What I have seen time and again is that us men here on DU - progressive guys - are the enemy because we don't always agree on some points.

Time and time again we get told we are nothing more than just some 'thing' who wants to get off and that we hate women. I can side with women time after time on the issues, vote for those who feel the same way, but here on DU I am some evil sexist who hates women.

You have allies all around.

"Awful women saying no to men they consider unattractive. Another misandrist conspiracy. If the world were fair, women would have sex with anyone, even men who regularly insulted their gender and engaged in relentless self pity. "

WTF? Does it really have to be this twisted and complex?

From benevolent sexism to porn all I hear from a select few here is about how men are just assholes who hate women. Maybe it is time for those few to look at themselves and how they see men.

We are not out to get women, keep them down, we don't hate them.

We are not your ex boyfriends or lovers who treated you bad.

We are liberal men that respect women in general, are for your rights, care about women's issues, and want to elect people who will insure women and others have the same rights as everyone else.