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lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
41. Because there are too many workers.
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:00 AM
Mar 2014

Almost every social ill in the US boils down to that one observation.

In the case of higher learning, for decades people who are out of work have been sold the idea that it's their own fault because "they lack the skills to compete in the new economy". At one time, workers were scarce enough that employers had to train them, and offer incentives (retirement plans) to keep them. Not today. Today, employers require large amounts of arbitrary education to obtain jobs that normal intelligence and a high school reading ability enables workers to perform (did you know that a "bachelor's degree in social networking" is a thing?) This displaces the costs of labor onto the employees, and it's intentional.

Lower the workweek to 32 hours and raise the cost of overtime to 2x. Two simple changes to FLSA law that would fix everything.

It would be simple if the government actually worked for the people.

the availabilty of loans drove prices up as colleges beachbum bob Mar 2014 #1
+1 nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #9
Very true. llmart Mar 2014 #15
There's the trees getting in the way of the forest. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #19
Loans did not drive prices up. Tax cuts to education drove prices up kemah Mar 2014 #27
^^^ THIS Stuckinthebush Mar 2014 #31
Yup. FloridaJudy Mar 2014 #58
This is false on it's face, there's less money going to colleges from state and feder government ... uponit7771 Mar 2014 #53
Complete and unadulerated Horse Shit... Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2014 #67
I blame the neo-conservatives who took an axe to the taxes and budgets liberal N proud Mar 2014 #2
In Iowa taxes on corporations were cut so far rurallib Mar 2014 #22
My oldest starts in August at Iowa State exboyfil Mar 2014 #33
Colleges had no choice? former9thward Mar 2014 #48
True, maybe it is all the technology? treestar Mar 2014 #3
Out in the world, computerized instruments have driven massive productivity gains. Thor_MN Mar 2014 #11
Most items I have read disagree with you joeglow3 Mar 2014 #25
The "competing for students" part is exactly right starroute Mar 2014 #28
In the 90's our dorm room was tiny joeglow3 Mar 2014 #29
It's both the instructional technology and the student information systems that have grown. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2014 #44
k/r marmar Mar 2014 #4
Are you saying we should be looking at Big Education? Savannahmann Mar 2014 #5
Same way housing did, easy loans create a bubble. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #6
Administrators are part of the answer. Adrahil Mar 2014 #7
+1 jsr Mar 2014 #51
YES!! There's NO FREAKIN REASON the head football coach should get paid 5 million a year! uponit7771 Mar 2014 #54
There is EVERY FREAKIN REASON if their program brings 10 million in revenue to the school OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #69
Football programs are only "profitable" at the top football schools. Adrahil Mar 2014 #70
Coaches only get $5 million per year at top football schools OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #72
Yup. Starry Messenger Mar 2014 #66
It's simple... RoccoR5955 Mar 2014 #8
The biggest problem is change in state support for college. Sancho Mar 2014 #10
At my local community college, state support has been cut WAY back in recent years. raccoon Mar 2014 #12
It's probably always been expensive. Turbineguy Mar 2014 #13
Very well thought out post...... llmart Mar 2014 #14
not only do the educated earn more and pay more taxes - they are often rurallib Mar 2014 #24
This is yet another result of corporate rule. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #16
Don't forget the H1B visas... freebrew Mar 2014 #18
Bad policy is hurting us in many ways. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #36
yes! especially on the 3rd paragraph: everything valuated strictly on dollar terms MisterP Mar 2014 #63
demand alc Mar 2014 #17
Why does a college president get paid a million bucks? Demeter Mar 2014 #20
+1 xchrom Mar 2014 #21
UT has over $8Billion in its endowment. Why are student fees going up every year? marble falls Mar 2014 #23
And 6,643 gold bars in a New York bank vault jsr Mar 2014 #52
Ronald Reagan and his ilk. MineralMan Mar 2014 #26
That fucker is to blame for 90% of our problems today liberal N proud Mar 2014 #34
Well, it's less him than those who supported and controlled him. MineralMan Mar 2014 #37
He is still at fault liberal N proud Mar 2014 #42
I'm not supporting him here, or anywhere. MineralMan Mar 2014 #43
Good article, but I wish people would proofread these things n2doc Mar 2014 #30
A colleague at my small state college recently retired QC Mar 2014 #32
"You NEED this diploma, sucker, so COUGH UP!!" HughBeaumont Mar 2014 #35
It is a personal service industry that has not increased productivity. FarCenter Mar 2014 #38
But the services have broadly expanded also. Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2014 #46
And at research institutions, administrative cost have risen FarCenter Mar 2014 #50
They've always been expensive. Back in the 1950s the government paid jeff47 Mar 2014 #39
In the 80's University College Dublin (public school) subsidized the following: Divernan Mar 2014 #57
Public universities w/ obscenely luxury dorm facilities; for one percenter wannabes? Divernan Mar 2014 #40
My college spent millions on a new housing complex... Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #45
Lifestyle and amenities on campus are better than almost all will be able to afford after graduating FarCenter Mar 2014 #47
I have 3 degrees & it's better than I can afford right now! Divernan Mar 2014 #49
Holy crap! FloridaJudy Mar 2014 #60
Geez, who built these? Cronies of big wig admins? alp227 Mar 2014 #65
Because there are too many workers. lumberjack_jeff Mar 2014 #41
Government cuts to education spending. n/t tammywammy Mar 2014 #55
A better question might be: Where does all the money go? Silent3 Mar 2014 #56
Boomers realized they didn't want to pay the taxes to fund them. taught_me_patience Mar 2014 #59
Working class income stagnated Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #61
I attended state university in OH from 1972-76. stopbush Mar 2014 #62
public disinvestment in higher education... mike_c Mar 2014 #64
Funny you should ask, since we're college shopping OmahaBlueDog Mar 2014 #68
MBA's and other financial wizards took over colleges and hospitals and developed a long list of Douglas Carpenter Mar 2014 #71
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