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WCLinolVir

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84. I'll just go with the definition of evil.

Tue Mar 11, 2014, 11:04 AM

Mar 2014

"morally wrong or bad; immoral; wicked: evil deeds; an evil life. 2. harmful; injurious." Yeah simple, but succinct. I just did not bother to elaborate. You may say that Putin's scapegoating of gays is homophobic, sociopathic, etc, but it is also evil. He is motivated by control, and gays as well as gay rights supporters do not support him. They are part of the outspoken criticism in Russia against Putin. He doesn't care who he hurts or at what price his monopoly on the media is enforced. US is evil too, or did you miss that?

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We shouldn't--and we won't--start a war with Russia over Ukraine. But.... [View all] Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 OP

I agree that Russia should be ashamed for taking advantage of the situation. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #1

And? Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #2

No to US military action. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #3

I agree with that Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #4

I don't want the cia playing games. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #5

You can bet they already are. Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #9

Probably. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #12

What if this was setup by the CIA to cause war in order to justify more Pentagon $$$ JaneyVee Mar 2014 #21

Who knows! This is the US and CA Russia playing games. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #22

We would probably be shocked if we could know the truth of it. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #63

If that war happens, you will never hear from any of us again. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #49

No 1awake Mar 2014 #77

They very likely caused the whole thing. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #62

The CIA has likely been playing games all along. davidn3600 Mar 2014 #19

Thats true. These big powers are playing games with Ukraine. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #20

Amen from me. If certain people, like McCain, would babylonsister Mar 2014 #7

I agree. People need to realize we can't do everything. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #10

Let's see the U.S. invaded Iraq. They said it was because of WMDs, but the real reason was oil. The lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #27

Yes oil is the reason. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #30

And Bush belongs in the Hague. joshcryer Mar 2014 #71

Actually, the people of the Crimea are quite happy with Putin tonight. I have no problem with that. reformist2 Mar 2014 #6

There are always reasons to justify unprovoked wars of aggression. Just ask George W. Bush. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #25

What amazes me are the number of DUers who suddenly become fans of such wars... ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #41

They are behaving like negative nationalists as described by Orwell. stevenleser Mar 2014 #43

It's ironic how the most accessible online library about Orwell... ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #53

I agree. If Orwell were writing this now, he would replace Britain with the US in that essay. stevenleser Mar 2014 #54

Thanks for posting the Orwell. amandabeech Mar 2014 #67

Very few DUers are in favor of any kind of war with anyone. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #64

I completely agree with that sentiment ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2014 #82

Yeah there were many Americans quite happy with bush-cheney Cha Mar 2014 #57

What do you know that the rest of of us do not know? Jenoch Mar 2014 #70

It is starting to sound like that is not true. joshcryer Mar 2014 #72

The Russians are glorious liberators who are bringing freedom and liberty penultimate Mar 2014 #8

Just like we do. 840high Mar 2014 #42

Nope... PosterChild Mar 2014 #55

For sure... penultimate Mar 2014 #61

Putin needs to have much worse happen then condemnation. If the Ukraine doesn't ignite a war okaawhatever Mar 2014 #11

Putin is pure evil and is now an aggressor Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #15

The US plotted a coup against an elected leader cprise Mar 2014 #45

I, like GWBUSH, looked into Putin's eyes/soul Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #46

Ummmm CBS... Yeah, you definitely seem like a CBS guy. cprise Mar 2014 #48

Lol. I don't have cable or satellite Pretzel_Warrior Mar 2014 #50

Are you saying Bush looked into a mirror and saw his soul? I agree. polly7 Mar 2014 #76

Putin is evil, no matter what the US the has done. WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #51

Those are very simplistic labels cprise Mar 2014 #52

I'll just go with the definition of evil. WCLinolVir Mar 2014 #84

Ah, that link. Igel Mar 2014 #59

Its quite clear. cprise Mar 2014 #68

I don't get that sense. This doesn't seem like a victory for him, it seems more TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #17

That post makes no sense to me. Igel Mar 2014 #60

Simple fact is that he couldn't influence at least half of the country to TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #65

Since Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for the US/UK/Russia gaurentee of kelly1mm Mar 2014 #13

There's nothing wrong with Putin that a couple of our drones wouldn't cure nt LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #14

Killing a head of state... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #31

It's not going to happen. LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #34

Yeah, I hear ya. awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #37

Oh yeah. that wouldn't at all create an insanely ultranationalistic environment in Russian politics. JVS Mar 2014 #56

Agreed. TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #16

I think the situation is far more complicated than what would warrant obvious condemnation alcibiades_mystery Mar 2014 #18

The US will not engage, unless the NATO treaty alittlelark Mar 2014 #23

Ukraine is NOT a member of NATO and abandoned plans to join long ago jsr Mar 2014 #79

Do you understand that at least half the population of Ukraine is ethnic russian? Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #24

See my #25. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #26

There isnt going to be any aggression. Crimea will vote to separate from Ukraine. Eastern Ukraine Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #28

The unprovoked war of aggression has already started. Russia admitted its troops are operating in stevenleser Mar 2014 #29

The troops are in Crimea, where they appear to be very welcomed. LisaL Mar 2014 #32

Once again, see my #25. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #33

there is no war going on. Your rhetoric is ridiculous. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #35

Once again, see my #25. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #36

The territorial integrity agreement likely precludes that. Chan790 Mar 2014 #38

Good point. That treaty and agreement, WHICH RUSSIA SIGNED, prohibits them doing what they are doing stevenleser Mar 2014 #39

And NATO was never to expand east... MattSh Mar 2014 #75

See my #25. nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #78

Apparently the point eluded you. MattSh Mar 2014 #80

None of which justifies the war crime of an unprovoked war of aggression. stevenleser Mar 2014 #81

the agreement will be ignored. Warren Stupidity Mar 2014 #40

Only after it has been put under complete military control, of course. joshcryer Mar 2014 #73

Putin kardonb Mar 2014 #44

I agree with you on this, pretty much. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #47

Russian history comprises repeating cycles of collapse followed by re-conglomeration. Maedhros Mar 2014 #58

tell that to the crowd who'll say the US engineered a violent coup... and lurves them some putin... dionysus Mar 2014 #66

I wonder... nikto Mar 2014 #69

I agree it shouldn't be by force davidpdx Mar 2014 #74

I want diplomatic and economic sanctions alarimer Mar 2014 #83