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Catherina

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13. Merkel never said Putin is unhinged. Germany was not pleased with that BS. A "memo" like you said
Tue Mar 11, 2014, 06:50 PM
Mar 2014

Great post and insight by the way.

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As for the German chancellory, it's not exactly endorsing the Times's account. Die Welt, the German newspaper, reported that "The chancellery was not pleased with the reporting on the conversation. They claim that what the chancellor said was that Putin has a different perception on Crimea, which is why she is pushing for a fact finding mission on the matter."

Government spokesman Jens Alberts told Claudia Himmelreich, a McClatchy special correspondent, exactly what the government said on Monday: no comment on the contents of the chancellor's confidential phone conversations -- with either Putin or Obama. In defining the German view, Alberts said he would "not dwell on reports and rumors of someone claiming she possibly said this or that. However, what is undisputed is that President Putin has a completely different view of the situation and the events on Crimea than the German government and our western allies."

A different view. Obviously. But unhinged?

So if Merkel didn't portray Putin as unhinged, why would the unknown Obama aide tell the New York Times she did? Because in the world of propaganda, successfully portraying your adversary as being crazy, without any rational backing to his actions, makes it unnecessary to try to understand the complexities or sensitivities of the issues. If Putin is crazy, then that's enough. We needn't think any further about what he has to say. And if the New York Times says he's crazy, that's good enough for the dozens of reporters who've come along since, repeating the comment to their millions of viewers and readers as if it was a confirmed statement.

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http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/03/05/3975981/did-angela-merkel-really-say-putin.html


and not just dozens of reporters either, thousands of propagandists followed suite.

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Crazy like a fox. You can accuse Putin of being the devil incarnate but you Cleita Mar 2014 #1
Religious motivation is pretty emotional IMO. Ny EmilyAnne Mar 2014 #3
That proves my point. Putin caters to the powerful religious influences in Cleita Mar 2014 #5
when Clinton and Cleita have evaluated a situation and come to opposite conclusions functioning_cog Mar 2014 #24
thanks kpete Cha Mar 2014 #2
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Yes, our fearless leaders need to do a lot of looking into the mirror. n/t Cleita Mar 2014 #6
Well, we are empire RobertEarl Mar 2014 #10
And those lovely Consultancies in Central Banks in these countries malaise Mar 2014 #36
+1 but this is the new meme. Not just +1 but plus 1000 n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #12
Wait who was the first person to bomb anywhere in Europe since WW2? malaise Mar 2014 #25
Whoa, dude!! Never thought of that!! RobertEarl Mar 2014 #28
Ya...nobody dropped a single bomb in Europe between 1945 and the 1990's Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #41
No US president did RobertEarl Mar 2014 #42
That poster said "first person" Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #43
You are off in right field, again RobertEarl Mar 2014 #46
what were your alternative strategies for dealing with Saddam Hussein at that time? functioning_cog Mar 2014 #33
You may be on the wrong site? RobertEarl Mar 2014 #39
So re: Clinton actions....nothing short of stringing up all of the Bushes (ostensibly killing them) functioning_cog Mar 2014 #40
Kill 'em? No RobertEarl Mar 2014 #44
And then some malaise Mar 2014 #45
Impulsive and short-sighted, rather than totally crazy. Had Putin been TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #7
Putin is interested in keeping himself in power and those who prop him up. He Cleita Mar 2014 #8
Derp. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #19
whatever n/t librechik Mar 2014 #9
Meh.... Xolodno Mar 2014 #11
Merkel never said Putin is unhinged. Germany was not pleased with that BS. A "memo" like you said Catherina Mar 2014 #13
Is Vladimir Putin insane? Hardly bemildred Mar 2014 #14
Interesting article. Thanks for posting that Number23 Mar 2014 #15
It is. they are both liars. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #16
Sigh. nt Number23 Mar 2014 #17
Sigh indeed. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #18
??? Number23 Mar 2014 #20
Hard to get excited over this. Two superpowers quibbling over how to loot Ukraine LittleBlue Mar 2014 #21
russia is no longer a superpower JI7 Mar 2014 #22
That's just wrong, JI7 RobertEarl Mar 2014 #26
ok, so north korea is a super power also JI7 Mar 2014 #27
When they fly our astronauts back, sure RobertEarl Mar 2014 #29
ok, so it's about flying astronauts ? JI7 Mar 2014 #30
What's your point RobertEarl Mar 2014 #32
they stopped being a superpower when the soviet union fell JI7 Mar 2014 #34
uh, no. Russia is not a superpower. Most of the prior global dominance has been ceded to China and functioning_cog Mar 2014 #35
Aww, jeez, not another one... RobertEarl Mar 2014 #37
UK has just as much claim to super power status as Russia. UN Veto. Nukes. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #38
Just not a very good bridge dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #23
Geeze, talk about predictable bullshit. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #31
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