Water carrying apologists for the NSA/CIA are enemies of democracy

[JoeyT]

10. I'm uncomfortable with asserting this

for the same reason I dislike the "blame America first", "supporting tarrarrists", or "Why do you hate freedom?" memes. I don't like declaring people to be the enemy of a concept.

We're always striking a balance between security and privacy. I think they're completely wrong where they fall on that line, and they think the same of me. For all that I poke a few of them and get annoyed with them sometimes, I don't think they're enemies of democracy. I'm completely opposed to the NSA/CIA, but I bet if we kept going we'd eventually disagree on where to draw the line, because all of us are going to draw it in a different place. Just to use an example, I tend to fall away from other civil libertarians on protests that attack every day individuals as a means to an end. I don't think screaming "SLUT!!!" at a pregnant woman through a megaphone from six feet away should be protected. I think it should be considered assault. If I started an OP to that end, there would likely be a bitter fight. It doesn't mean I hate free speech, or am any less supportive of it, it just means I draw the line differently.

If I had to pick a group in the US to brand the enemies of democracy, it'd be the folks that are doing their level best to make it as hard as humanly possible for people that disagree with them to vote.