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In reply to the discussion: I'm gonna say it and I don't care what gun nuts think... [View all]bread_and_roses
(6,335 posts)150. "It's Past Time to Protect Children Not Guns"
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/03/24-2
It's Past Time to Protect Children Not Guns
by Marian Wright Edelman
... The 5,740 children and teens killed by guns in 2008 and 2009:
Would fill more than 229 public school classrooms of 25 students each;
Was greater than the number of U.S. military personnel killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan (5,013).
The number of preschoolers killed by guns in 2008 (88) and 2009 (85) was nearly double the number of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in 2008 (41) and 2009 (48).
Black children and teens accounted for 45 percent of all child and teen gun deaths in 2008 and 2009 but were only 15 percent of the total child population.
The leading cause of death among black teens ages 15 to 19 in 2008 and 2009 was gun homicide. For white teens 15 to 19 it was motor vehicle accidents followed by gun homicide (2008) and gun suicide (2009).
Of the 116,385 children and teens killed by a gun since 1979 when gun data was first collected by age, 44,038 were black -- nearly 13 times more than the number of recorded lynchings of black people of all ages in the 86 years from 1882 to 1968.
But more white than black children and teens have died from gun violence which threatens all in America everywhere.
Analysis of the most recent data from 23 high-income countries reported that 87 percent of all firearm deaths of children under 15 were in the United States. The rate of U.S. gun homicides for teens and young adults 15 to 24 was 42.7 times higher than the overall gun homicide rate for that same age group in the other countries.
Why are common-sense gun regulations so shockingly absent in our country?
... why indeed?
but we'll keep hearing even here about how "guns don't kill people..." and cars are just the same as guns and blah blah blah ... while the carnage continues.
It's Past Time to Protect Children Not Guns
by Marian Wright Edelman
... The 5,740 children and teens killed by guns in 2008 and 2009:
Would fill more than 229 public school classrooms of 25 students each;
Was greater than the number of U.S. military personnel killed in action in Iraq and Afghanistan (5,013).
The number of preschoolers killed by guns in 2008 (88) and 2009 (85) was nearly double the number of law enforcement officers killed in the line of duty in 2008 (41) and 2009 (48).
Black children and teens accounted for 45 percent of all child and teen gun deaths in 2008 and 2009 but were only 15 percent of the total child population.
The leading cause of death among black teens ages 15 to 19 in 2008 and 2009 was gun homicide. For white teens 15 to 19 it was motor vehicle accidents followed by gun homicide (2008) and gun suicide (2009).
Of the 116,385 children and teens killed by a gun since 1979 when gun data was first collected by age, 44,038 were black -- nearly 13 times more than the number of recorded lynchings of black people of all ages in the 86 years from 1882 to 1968.
But more white than black children and teens have died from gun violence which threatens all in America everywhere.
Analysis of the most recent data from 23 high-income countries reported that 87 percent of all firearm deaths of children under 15 were in the United States. The rate of U.S. gun homicides for teens and young adults 15 to 24 was 42.7 times higher than the overall gun homicide rate for that same age group in the other countries.
Why are common-sense gun regulations so shockingly absent in our country?
... why indeed?
but we'll keep hearing even here about how "guns don't kill people..." and cars are just the same as guns and blah blah blah ... while the carnage continues.
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We also know that the NRA and it's army of gun extremists want to force their...
Walk away
Mar 2012
#135
Well I think getting handguns and legally concealing them aren't necessarily the same thing
TeamsterDem
Mar 2012
#22
the problem is that the "responsible folks" who own guns may not be "responsible" forever...but
CTyankee
Mar 2012
#29
So what is your solution? How do you keep the nuts from killing people so you can have your
CTyankee
Mar 2012
#42
That's it - let's do nothing and in a decade there will be another 100 million guns on street.
Hoyt
Mar 2012
#55
Details -- If you make money off guns, you likely don't really give a crud who gets killed.
Hoyt
Mar 2012
#160
So what's your solution to this "problem"? Prohibit gun manufacturers from advertising
Johnny Rico
Mar 2012
#161
Society needs to look a guns like stinking cigars, swastikas, confederate flags, Republicans,
Hoyt
Mar 2012
#166
Rather than a rant about all the evils of the world, what *policies* do you advocate?
Johnny Rico
Mar 2012
#168
I suspect the fact isn't as "useless" as it is inconvenient for your position
TeamsterDem
Mar 2012
#204
There are going to be another 100 million guns in a decade (or two) even *if* you do something.
Johnny Rico
Mar 2012
#165
You're exaggerating the analogy to make a point, but exaggeration isn't useful
TeamsterDem
Mar 2012
#211
When driving a car, you are required to attend a class, have a license and insurance...
cynatnite
Mar 2012
#97
That's for driving a car. But owning one doesn't necessarily require any of that
TeamsterDem
Mar 2012
#100
So fine. Keep your gun in your house. Take it out on the streets: get a license.
Warren Stupidity
Mar 2012
#163
I think most people agree that carrying it should require a license. I certainly do
TeamsterDem
Mar 2012
#207
This Is The Gun Rights Movement's Concept Of A Convincing Argument...... (n/t)
Paladin
Mar 2012
#222
What does a car have to do with a gun? That's one of the usual arguments the NRA teaches you but...
Walk away
Mar 2012
#140
First off, the NRA has never "taught" me anything; I'm not a member and never have been
TeamsterDem
Mar 2012
#213
And by the way, you most certainly CAN "drive your kids to school in a car"
WinniSkipper
Apr 2012
#251
Whenever a friend or acquaintance mention getting a concealed carry permit,
aka-chmeee
Mar 2012
#141
Great post LynneSin. I've always thought this is like sex to these losers. F**k the NRA..n/t
monmouth
Mar 2012
#14
Maybe, but I think such is beyond the libertarian/authoritarian/liberal/conservative frames
TheKentuckian
Mar 2012
#193
I read a very interesting piece in the NY Times about the U.S. Constitution's popularity with
CTyankee
Mar 2012
#35
A written constitution that is unworkable is a problem! What good is it if you can't USE it?
CTyankee
Mar 2012
#230
As the country gets Bluer, i.e., more Democratic, thanks to demographics, the "gun rights" crowd is
apocalypsehow
Mar 2012
#206
Given the enormous amount of (mostly)Republican money that went into the coffers
CTyankee
Mar 2012
#179
Wish that our govt killing innocent people with guns/bombs/drones got this much press
The Straight Story
Mar 2012
#21
Government killing innocent people with guns/bombs/drones is predictable collateral damage
indepat
Mar 2012
#88
This horrible case is just what millions have been afraid of happening when this law was debated
got root
Mar 2012
#24
By definition, murder is an unlawful killing of a human being by a human being.
Kennah
Mar 2012
#104
On the question of "Is George Zimmerman an unindicted murderer?" I would say yes.
Kennah
Mar 2012
#212
Your right. But as far as am concerned he still murdered an unarmed young man. That makes him a
southernyankeebelle
Mar 2012
#226
I know you all don't want to hear this but everytime there is a DU poll about who owns a gun...
L0oniX
Mar 2012
#39
this has nutt'n to do with gun owners, just the kooks supporting the bizarre gun lobby law of SYG
got root
Mar 2012
#80
Gun Nuts, in the old Moderator version of the DU this would have been locked. Not anymore!
Logical
Mar 2012
#49
Ed Shultz just highlighted another case that just happened in Wisconsin due to the castle law
TNLib
Mar 2012
#72
That was a 20 yr old man hiding in an enclosed back porch in which he was trespassing at 2 am
piedmont
Mar 2012
#109
the point is there was no investigation and someone should not be shot just for tresspassing
TNLib
Mar 2012
#151
"After careful review of the evidence in this case, and for the reasons discussed..."
piedmont
Mar 2012
#171
shooting an unarmed man who is unlawfully on your back porch is not justified Self defense.
TNLib
Mar 2012
#175
I care much more about people being beaten, raped, killed in their own homes by invaders
piedmont
Mar 2012
#189
Stand Your Ground = Open season on anybody that doesn't look like you..
workinclasszero
Mar 2012
#60
Sure seems like it. They have had shootings like this all over the place, wherever they have those
Major Hogwash
Mar 2012
#65
A gun. A rope. What's the difference? It's the hate and fear we have to stop. n/t
jtuck004
Mar 2012
#78
You're drinking from the "gun nuts just want an excuse to kill and get away with it" trough.
krispos42
Mar 2012
#94
I agree. The mere fact someone is attracted to something marketed as an "assault" weapon is enough
Hoyt
Mar 2012
#169
Opponents Of Florida’s 2005 ‘Stand Your Ground’ Law Predicted ‘Racially Motivated Killings’
ProSense
Mar 2012
#178
"Guns don't kill people, People do". Yep - insane people who are allowed to have guns kill people.
jillan
Mar 2012
#199
The admins have the ability to block you guys from posting in the GD forum.
Major Hogwash
Mar 2012
#239