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greatlaurel

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21. Well Said

Wed Mar 12, 2014, 11:37 AM

Mar 2014

That is it in a nutshell. I am sick and tired of the rightwing propaganda on this site encouraging people to not vote for a Democratic candidate because they are not the perfect progressive. The right has been extraordinarily effective in depressing Democratic voters since the Nixon years using the "they are all crooks" theme while energizing the right wing nut voters that Democrats will take away their guns and prayers while killing babies.

We see it here on DU all the time with the anti-Clinton propaganda. I am all for calling out Democrats when they side with the corporations, but out right saying you will not vote for Clinton if she wins the Democratic nomination is right wing propaganda. It also depresses the vote for all Democrats when we see that sort of thing over and over. Another example, is the complaining about Ms. Sink. Saying it is all her fault is playing right into the GOP playbook to suppress Democratic voters. I have less problem pointing out the problems of the state Democratic organizations. Some of them seem like they are operated to help the GOP win, that includes my state of Ohio.

Great post. Thanks.

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To the Lazy Lefties and Slothful Centrists: F*** all y�all. [View all] riqster Mar 2014 OP

Lefties have long outnumbered righties pipoman Mar 2014 #1

S'truth. Sad and infuriating. riqster Mar 2014 #2

Red meat, people turn out for red meat Fumesucker Mar 2014 #4

Nice analogy nt riqster Mar 2014 #7

Obama has given red meat to the base pipoman Mar 2014 #41

You need moderates to win an election. Rex Mar 2014 #46

True. riqster Mar 2014 #62

I appreciate you being fair about it. Rex Mar 2014 #79

Me too. That is one reason to vote riqster Mar 2014 #82

I think besides curiosity, it is our number one trait. Rex Mar 2014 #83

sadly, i suspect "moderates" use that name to cover BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #98

Sounds plausible. riqster Mar 2014 #106

Exactly! BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #60

Or give a tax credit FOR voting. riqster Mar 2014 #65

to play devils advocate then why have traditionally blue states gone purple? lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #35

A different question pipoman Mar 2014 #37

I agree with that, but to the original point, I am far from convinced that the left outnumbers the lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #43

Fear and hate are powerful motivators. Scuba Mar 2014 #3

True. But fear of even more Teabaggery doesn't seem to motivate many who vote Dem. riqster Mar 2014 #8

Yeah, but our side doesn't really call them out on it. We've never made voters afraid of Teabillies. Scuba Mar 2014 #13

True. There is the whole "stare into the abyss too long" bit to consider. riqster Mar 2014 #15

i think the time lapse between cause and effect is too long. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2014 #99

You are probably right about that. nt riqster Mar 2014 #100

But honestly ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #31

So very, very true ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #30

Personally, I never blame the audience, it gets you no where. Sink sucked. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #5

Fair points, but voters are not the audience. riqster Mar 2014 #6

Audience is not passive either. The point is, if you can't draw the people, it's on you. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #9

That post is, itself, an argument for passivity. riqster Mar 2014 #11

If there is passivity here, the lion's portion of the blame goes to the candidate. Maedhros Mar 2014 #36

Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #32

I'll quote a counterpoint riqster Mar 2014 #63

I ove it ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #74

Yeah, that is the sneaky subtext. riqster Mar 2014 #75

This has nothing to do with anyone being entitled to anything. Silent3 Mar 2014 #59

signature worthy DonCoquixote Mar 2014 #61

We go to the polls with the electorate we have, not the electorate we wish we had Fumesucker Mar 2014 #64

Seniors are heavily Republican and... steve2470 Mar 2014 #10

Thing is, she was doing well leading up to the election. riqster Mar 2014 #12

Actually, ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #33

Wow. Link? riqster Mar 2014 #34

I'll look for it ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #42

Thanks. riqster Mar 2014 #50

There are no valid excuses not to go vote. Ever. PhilSays Mar 2014 #14

I typically vote against Repubes. But I always do that at least. riqster Mar 2014 #16

Well Said greatlaurel Mar 2014 #21

Another Buckeye here. riqster Mar 2014 #22

Buckeye in Exile, here ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #38

Get used to the feeling, because you will experience it a lot in '14 and '16... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #17

If we get off our asses and vote, that can change. riqster Mar 2014 #18

We elected Obama with a majority in the house and a SUPER in the Senate... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #19

A bare majority in the House , and not a practical super in the senate. riqster Mar 2014 #20

It wasn't perfection or nothing, it was nothing FOR nothing Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #24

You are ignoring facts. riqster Mar 2014 #27

exactly. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #40

Tell it to the voters. In the mentime compare what we handed Obama to what other Presidents had... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #45

2006: "Give us a majority in the House so we can get subpoena power!" Maedhros Mar 2014 #39

Many here would vote for Dick Cheney if he changed party. nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #47

Bullshit. NYC Liberal Mar 2014 #23

+10000. the fillibustering blue dogs always get a pass. dionysus Mar 2014 #26

Would have? Show me the vote. Which Democrats vote against a public option? nt Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #48

Yes! nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #54

You are talking GOP obstruction AFTER we flushed our majorities... Demo_Chris Mar 2014 #28

Great post. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #55

Your post is replete with the notion that Magician Obama has absolute control Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #51

You said it Puzzledtraveller Mar 2014 #90

Here's your typical Republican voter� flpoljunkie Mar 2014 #25

!! dionysus Mar 2014 #29

Doesn't matter, they show up in off years, we don't show up. As a result, they are setting bluestate10 Mar 2014 #49

Somehow Dems must be persuaded to vote in mid-term elections flpoljunkie Mar 2014 #69

It's the party that is out of the White House that makes a showing in mid-terms Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #78

And we very much need an exception this year. Nt riqster Mar 2014 #81

Yes, we do Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #109

Maybe so, but let's help it happen. riqster Mar 2014 #110

Well, I'll do what I can Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #111

Yeah, my district will go Red. riqster Mar 2014 #113

There may be a glimmer of hope in Arkansas for the House Art_from_Ark Mar 2014 #112

Go get 'em! riqster Mar 2014 #114

That's a perfect description of a GOP!! Love it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #52

Disturbing image, but accurate. eom Jamaal510 Mar 2014 #58

"Dem voters can�t be bothered to spend a few minutes to vote" - give me a break 0rganism Mar 2014 #44

You're right. Many are. Some Dems, however, think that by sabotaging Dem elections... Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #53

As was said in 2000 by third-party types, riqster Mar 2014 #68

And it didn't happen. That tactic never, ever works. Handing power to the enemy is never bright Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #96

But some people still believe in it. Sad. riqster Mar 2014 #97

I agree. It's tantrum-like behavior. Strategy helps. Tantrums don't. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #102

I specified "lazy" throughout my post. riqster Mar 2014 #66

fair enough, but i think you'd find a lot less "lazy" voters under less-preventive circumstances 0rganism Mar 2014 #107

There are a fair few of each - lazy and prevented. riqster Mar 2014 #108

My experience of electoral maps at campaign headquarters during an election delrem Mar 2014 #56

Let's face it...too many Dems don't get off their asses and vote, soooooo Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #57

And most of the unaffiliated people who do not vote, Jamastiene Mar 2014 #87

Persuasion isn't about getting someone to do what you want. idendoit Mar 2014 #67

Very true. riqster Mar 2014 #73

I always wonder why LWolf Mar 2014 #70

Lurkers abound, and so do unregistered readers. riqster Mar 2014 #71

"I seriously doubt if we have many (if any) of this sort of person at DU." LWolf Mar 2014 #85

I should have said "registered users" or such. riqster Mar 2014 #88

Good to hear. nt LWolf Mar 2014 #89

It's part of a recruiting campaign, NM_Birder Mar 2014 #72

In that case, LWolf Mar 2014 #86

of course it is, yet excuses abound. NM_Birder Mar 2014 #105

It's easier to "win" arguments when your opponent isn't around?? n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #95

Turns out, a few of them are here. riqster Mar 2014 #104

When Democrats give people.. sendero Mar 2014 #76

OK, I was wrong in my OP. riqster Mar 2014 #77

Not "no" difference.. sendero Mar 2014 #80

To quote your post: riqster Mar 2014 #84

No... sendero Mar 2014 #91

Not true. riqster Mar 2014 #92

"Nothing"... sendero Mar 2014 #93

I respect data. riqster Mar 2014 #94

That is your blog, correct? Trajan Mar 2014 #101

Says so on my profile. riqster Mar 2014 #103