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dickthegrouch

(3,235 posts)
61. You have to read very carefully between the lines on these things
Wed Mar 12, 2014, 02:58 PM
Mar 2014

My take is that she's outraged that the CIA conducted a search about Americans on US soil against its charter. Maybe some spoliation of evidence, but that's *IT*.

Please don't confuse NSA spying on everyone with CIA doing something completely different.

I listened to General Hayden recently talking about the NSA mess and he's quite happily convinced himself that the NSA is filling a gap in the intelligence gathering apparatus and sees no problem whatsoever with sharing information with the "appropriate law enforcement entities" (FBI, CIA, Local LEO) when they discover something. That's when so-called "parallel construction" of probable cause and evidence chains start. I was VERY impressed that "The Good Wife (CBS, Sunday) took up this hot button.

I think Hayden is entirely wrong. The 4th amendment has not yet been formally repealed. IMHO anyone who contravenes it has committed an egregious offense. If the government can't be bothered to get 350,0000,000 search warrants, it can't collect 350,000,000 people's information. If I were defense lawyer, I would try to call all probable-cause hearings and findings into question.

No, she did not think she was part of Everyone. winter is coming Mar 2014 #1
No, the operation was not to spy on everyone treestar Mar 2014 #56
I think she understands very little. Autumn Mar 2014 #2
I second that. nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #5
Or outrage when *she's* the one watched by the shadows MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #25
so today's new reveal is questionseverything Mar 2014 #53
I get the same impression. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #31
It's really a lifelong habit. jsr Mar 2014 #43
it only matters when applied to them.... spanone Mar 2014 #3
Feinstein is a committed national surveillance state supporter quinnox Mar 2014 #4
But only for the NSA (and NRO, CIA, DIA, etc.) spying on others (some foreigners) erronis Mar 2014 #9
Yep. And remember, citizen, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear quinnox Mar 2014 #10
Yet you no doubt see that the pro-spying/authoritarian crowd delrem Mar 2014 #30
spot on.. n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #57
Excellent post ashling Mar 2014 #6
K&R.. butterfly77 Mar 2014 #7
Never really liked Feinstein YoungDemCA Mar 2014 #8
I agree, but she is strong on environmental issues. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #52
Fantastic post, Manny! sueh Mar 2014 #11
Snort, snort. gulliver Mar 2014 #12
Manny, Manny, Manny, truedelphi Mar 2014 #13
Unbelievable! BobbyBoring Mar 2014 #15
Natutrally, no major media "news source" outlets would carry the tale of truedelphi Mar 2014 #16
Maybe thats why she's scared of being spied on DJ13 Mar 2014 #27
+1 jsr Mar 2014 #44
Hey Neighbor!! 2banon Mar 2014 #60
Like Cheney, she has totally gotten away with it. nt delrem Mar 2014 #21
But she's a DEM sibelian Mar 2014 #33
Dick is also selling off the post offices nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #39
And here I thought you were referring to Dick Cheney.. Difi's husband is the Dick in this operation 2banon Mar 2014 #62
Her husband is now securing Surveillance projects? ohh the fucking irony. n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #58
Maybe Ms. Feinstein and her likes might realize now that their privileged endowment allowing bkanderson76 Mar 2014 #14
spot on a2liberal Mar 2014 #17
DiFi always been a ConservaDem, so no, I'm sure she didn't think blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #18
She's been apologizing for spying for so long, CIA/NSA has determined that she can't be trusted... pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #19
''MANNY, I THOUGHT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE LITTLE PEOPLE!!!!!'' DeSwiss Mar 2014 #20
Senator Frahnkenfeensteen understands the universal language... elzenmahn Mar 2014 #22
DiFi and many others KNEW about this from the GET GO! KoKo Mar 2014 #23
"Do. Your. #%^*ing. Job." Hotler Mar 2014 #24
Thank you for posting! I was thinking how much of a hypocrite she sounds like. diabeticman Mar 2014 #26
As a Californian minivan2 Mar 2014 #28
she needs to go bye bye PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #29
My love for Senator Feinstein will never be diminished by anything so petty. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #32
wow! nt tomp Mar 2014 #34
And you will never pollute my screen again. FiveGoodMen Mar 2014 #65
I didn't think I needed the sarcasm thingie. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #66
Sorry! Guess I was having a bad day. FiveGoodMen Mar 2014 #67
As despicable as she is... dreamnightwind Mar 2014 #35
What you said. Bohunk68 Mar 2014 #36
But, but, but, but............. BlueJac Mar 2014 #37
... Fumesucker Mar 2014 #38
To paraphrase Leona Helmsley... KansDem Mar 2014 #40
Well, the Senator has standards jsr Mar 2014 #41
What part of 'Operation Spy On Everyone' has evidence to support it exists? randome Mar 2014 #42
omg. 2banon Mar 2014 #59
If anyone needs to be spyed on, SmittynMo Mar 2014 #45
What Sen. Feinstein is alleging is much worse than snooping AngryAmish Mar 2014 #46
Thanks Manny libodem Mar 2014 #47
Here is Dianne Feinstein's statement: CJCRANE Mar 2014 #48
That's very, very useful, thanks. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #49
Wow! Iggo Mar 2014 #50
For thee, not me. woo me with science Mar 2014 #51
God forbid that the overseers do some oversight and bring torturers to justice. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #54
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2014 #55
You have to read very carefully between the lines on these things dickthegrouch Mar 2014 #61
Its sensible and simple request. marble falls Mar 2014 #63
Typical. Phlem Mar 2014 #64
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