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In reply to the discussion: A few questions as follow-up to Dianne Feinstein's Statment on the CIA [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)20. Good questions. The
timeline is interesting.
The removals happened in 2010. It's not hard to believe that there are people at the CIA who don't want this information to come out.
Reading into Senator Feinstein's statement and the timeline: Brennan wasn't head of the CIA when the documents were removed, but interestingly he lost out on the position in Obama's first term because of his support for torture.
Feinstein:
As CIA Director Brennan has stated, the CIA officially agrees with some of our study. But, as has been reported, the CIA disagrees and disputes important parts of it. And this is important: Some of these important parts that the CIA now disputes in our committee study are clearly acknowledged in the CIAs own Internal Panetta Review.
To say the least, this is puzzling. How can the CIAs official response to our study stand factually in conflict with its own Internal Review?
To say the least, this is puzzling. How can the CIAs official response to our study stand factually in conflict with its own Internal Review?
Heads will likely roll at the CIA at the conclusion of an investigation into the removal of documents. It's likely there could be criminal charges. Still, the main purpose of this trampling on the separation of powers is an attempt to hide Bush's torture program.
The report, if as damaging as Feinstein states, should result in war crime prosecutions.
It's interesting that the most sought-after documents on torture, ones the CIA is desperate to keep from the public, were created/turned over by Leon Panetta.
Feinstein:
<...>
On March 5, 2009, the committee voted 14-1 to initiate a comprehensive review of the CIA Detention and Interrogation Program. Immediately, we sent a request for documents to all relevant executive branch agencies, chiefly among them the CIA.
The committees preference was for the CIA to turn over all responsive documents to the committees office, as had been done in previous committee investigations.
Director Panetta proposed an alternative arrangement: to provide literally millions of pages of operational cables, internal emails, memos, and other documents pursuant to the committees document requests at a secure location in Northern Virginia. We agreed, but insisted on several conditions and protections to ensure the integrity of this congressional investigation.
Per an exchange of letters in 2009, then-Vice Chairman Bond, then-Director Panetta, and I agreed in an exchange of letters that the CIA was to provide a stand-alone computer system with a network drive segregated from CIA networks for the committee that would only be accessed by information technology personnel at the CIAwho would not be permitted to share information from the system with other (CIA) personnel, except as otherwise authorized by the committee.
It was this computer network that, notwithstanding our agreement with Director Panetta, was searched by the CIA this past January, and once before which I will later describe.
<...>
There are several reasons why the draft summary of the Panetta Review was brought to our secure spaces at the Hart Building.
Let me list them:
The significance of the Internal Review given disparities between it and the June 2013 CIA response to the committee study. The Internal Panetta Review summary now at the secure committee office in the Hart Building is an especially significant document as it corroborates critical information in the committees 6,300-page Study that the CIAs official response either objects to, denies, minimizes, or ignores.
Unlike the official response, these Panetta Review documents were in agreement with the committees findings. Thats what makes them so significant and important to protect.
When the Internal Panetta Review documents disappeared from the committees computer system, this suggested once again that the CIA had removed documents already provided to the committee, in violation of CIA agreements and White House assurances that the CIA would cease such activities.
As I have detailed, the CIA has previously withheld and destroyed information about its Detention and Interrogation Program, including its decision in 2005 to destroy interrogation videotapes over the objections of the Bush White House and the Director of National Intelligence. Based on the information described above, there was a need to preserve and protect the Internal Panetta Review in the committees own secure spaces.
Now, the Relocation of the Internal Panetta Review was lawful and handled in a manner consistent with its classification. No law prevents the relocation of a document in the committees possession from a CIA facility to secure committee offices on Capitol Hill. As I mentioned before, the document was handled and transported in a manner consistent with its classification, redacted appropriately, and it remains securedwith restricted accessin committee spaces.
- more -
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=db84e844-01bb-4eb6-b318-31486374a895
On March 5, 2009, the committee voted 14-1 to initiate a comprehensive review of the CIA Detention and Interrogation Program. Immediately, we sent a request for documents to all relevant executive branch agencies, chiefly among them the CIA.
The committees preference was for the CIA to turn over all responsive documents to the committees office, as had been done in previous committee investigations.
Director Panetta proposed an alternative arrangement: to provide literally millions of pages of operational cables, internal emails, memos, and other documents pursuant to the committees document requests at a secure location in Northern Virginia. We agreed, but insisted on several conditions and protections to ensure the integrity of this congressional investigation.
Per an exchange of letters in 2009, then-Vice Chairman Bond, then-Director Panetta, and I agreed in an exchange of letters that the CIA was to provide a stand-alone computer system with a network drive segregated from CIA networks for the committee that would only be accessed by information technology personnel at the CIAwho would not be permitted to share information from the system with other (CIA) personnel, except as otherwise authorized by the committee.
It was this computer network that, notwithstanding our agreement with Director Panetta, was searched by the CIA this past January, and once before which I will later describe.
<...>
There are several reasons why the draft summary of the Panetta Review was brought to our secure spaces at the Hart Building.
Let me list them:
The significance of the Internal Review given disparities between it and the June 2013 CIA response to the committee study. The Internal Panetta Review summary now at the secure committee office in the Hart Building is an especially significant document as it corroborates critical information in the committees 6,300-page Study that the CIAs official response either objects to, denies, minimizes, or ignores.
Unlike the official response, these Panetta Review documents were in agreement with the committees findings. Thats what makes them so significant and important to protect.
When the Internal Panetta Review documents disappeared from the committees computer system, this suggested once again that the CIA had removed documents already provided to the committee, in violation of CIA agreements and White House assurances that the CIA would cease such activities.
As I have detailed, the CIA has previously withheld and destroyed information about its Detention and Interrogation Program, including its decision in 2005 to destroy interrogation videotapes over the objections of the Bush White House and the Director of National Intelligence. Based on the information described above, there was a need to preserve and protect the Internal Panetta Review in the committees own secure spaces.
Now, the Relocation of the Internal Panetta Review was lawful and handled in a manner consistent with its classification. No law prevents the relocation of a document in the committees possession from a CIA facility to secure committee offices on Capitol Hill. As I mentioned before, the document was handled and transported in a manner consistent with its classification, redacted appropriately, and it remains securedwith restricted accessin committee spaces.
- more -
http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=db84e844-01bb-4eb6-b318-31486374a895
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024654245
The Senate and the CIA at War
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024648419
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Yeah, stalling 'til the election makes sense. But I think the torture will play second fiddle ...
Scuba
Mar 2014
#38
I don't know how the Committees work but I don't think the Senate itself records the votes
struggle4progress
Mar 2014
#3
I'm sure they won't approve of our sentiments and might consider some sort of punishment.
Enthusiast
Mar 2014
#22
Great post. There is also a disconnect in reporting about this being W era torture
underpants
Mar 2014
#18
Does anyone believe that the attempted censoring of the Internal Panetta Review
Maedhros
Mar 2014
#37
Seems to me that Panetta should be hauled before the committee under oath nt
LiberalEsto
Mar 2014
#48
panetta just made a list describing which docs went out to the senate
questionseverything
Mar 2014
#51
at the end of the article in that link was a really good interview with marci wheeler
questionseverything
Mar 2014
#53