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52. I know they're trying their best

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 10:17 AM

Mar 2014

but their management of the crisis and dissemination of info to the media have been horrific...

I mean this is basic PR 101 stuff -- Basic commandments like not divulging info until you are 100% certain of validity and relevance; making sure ALL information flows through Malaysian officials ONLY and that other countries' investigators aren't anonymously spouting off their own theories; making sure the media understands 'If-you-didn't-hear-it-from-us-it's-bullshit' under no uncertain terms; etc...

To see how many people are talking to the press, you'd think that Malaysia wasn't the lead country in this effort...Go back and see how tightly and professionally the BEA handled the AF447 in spite of all the speculation...I understand there are cultural considerations here; Malaysian officials have never dealt with an incident on this scale in front of an international media starved for answers (I read in another piece that Malaysian officials aren't used to probing follow-up questions, or having the inconsistencies in their press conferences exposed)...

I realize their hearts are in the right place in wanting to take the lead since it's their airline with their citizens taking off from their airport; but if the Malaysians aren't ready for prime time (which seems increasingly evident) then there is no shame in requesting some other nation take over...Smaller countries do it all the time...

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Engine Data Suggests Missing Airplane Flew On for Hours After Radar Disappearance [View all] Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 OP

A grand kidnapping? MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #1

This is the ACARS data. The plane could have reached India. PSPS Mar 2014 #2

Or someplace like 2naSalit Mar 2014 #6

The Saudis have a good handle on what happens in and around their airspace. MADem Mar 2014 #11

Oh my, could it be that the passengers madaboutharry Mar 2014 #3

or another alternate movie plot... HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #41

According to the interwebz... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #4

That's the max cruising speed Major Nikon Mar 2014 #13

Thanks! Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #15

could it have reached North Korea? grasswire Mar 2014 #5

Someone needs to write that movie script, NOW...and get it made in time for summer blockbuster MADem Mar 2014 #9

I think it's called "Lost" grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #26

I didn't watch that show, not a single episode, but my impression of that thing was that they MADem Mar 2014 #49

it just gets weirder and weirder. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #7

How long before this gets rescinded? ecstatic Mar 2014 #8

Ya...it's a clusterfuck at this point Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #12

Since the engines send data at 30 minute increments, greyl Mar 2014 #16

If you read the article, it's amazingly mealy-mouthed about what data they actually have. Jerry442 Mar 2014 #25

And where. grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #27

oh boy.. wth! Eventually we have Cha Mar 2014 #10

More: No wreckage found in spot where Chinese satellite images show what might be debris Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #14

Wow. greyl Mar 2014 #17

If they were alive, wouldn't someone have made SheilaT Mar 2014 #21

I think they must have been confiscated by whoever is/was in charge of that plane. nt greyl Mar 2014 #22

That assumes a very organized SheilaT Mar 2014 #28

It could have been 1 person with a persuasive argument of some sort. greyl Mar 2014 #65

I guess I'm simply far more convinced SheilaT Mar 2014 #67

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That has been explained. Nt Logical Mar 2014 #45

Explain it again., If it pinged back from the phone itself or not. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #61

When you dial a number, the ring you hear doesn't correspond with the phone you dialed. greyl Mar 2014 #66

Yes, I understand that part of telecommunications. It was my job for many years. freshwest Mar 2014 #68

Cell phones need cell towers. RC Mar 2014 #59

In the last 24 hrs. I've started thinking Gman Mar 2014 #18

I don't think they know squat. n/t DeSwiss Mar 2014 #19

I urge everyone to read the full article. SoapBox Mar 2014 #20

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If they could get to Somalia, they could get to the Middle East. One piece posted on this said they freshwest Mar 2014 #60

More rumors. MADem Mar 2014 #62

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Hee hee....I look like hell in EVERY ID picture I have...! MADem Mar 2014 #64

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That would be a hell of a lot of new residents! randome Mar 2014 #53

I just realized I never read it. Kablooie Mar 2014 #56

We probably use the same type of software exboyfil Mar 2014 #29

My understanding is engine performance data is much functioning_cog Mar 2014 #32

Here is one OEM example exboyfil Mar 2014 #34

Malaysia's transport minister says media reports suggesting lost Flight kept flying are inaccurate Hissyspit Mar 2014 #35

I just heard him Hissyspit malaise Mar 2014 #36

The Malaysian Gov't has allowed this investigation to Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #46

I don't see how malaise Mar 2014 #48

I know they're trying their best Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #52

Well I blame the Malaysian Army for most of the misinformation malaise Mar 2014 #54

No doubt there's been too much crazy media speculation Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #55

Just saw on CNN that the Malaysains are disputing this. Separation Mar 2014 #37

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Here's a bit from the Guardian... countryjake Mar 2014 #39

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Wow, we were discussing this very possibility. idendoit Mar 2014 #43

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This would explain why no one has claimed responsibility B2G Mar 2014 #50

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Yes, but Stewart's plane stayed on radar the whole time lapislzi Mar 2014 #57

True enough. Pholus Mar 2014 #58

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