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cpwm17

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40. The claim that the Earth was the center of the solar system
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:08 PM
Mar 2014

was from an essentially prescientific time. Early science, with strong resistance from religion, discovered that the Sun is the center of the solar system. Early science also discovered that heavier objects don't fall faster, ignoring air resistance. Those were early achievements of science.

Copernicus and Galileo were persecuted by the church, not science.

Science isn't done in the media. Science requires the scientific process. The overwhelming consensus among scientists, using the scientific method, is that man-caused climate change is real. Any other explanation for why the Earth's climate is changing should be accomplished through the scientific method.

Survey finds 97% of climate science papers agree warming is man-made:
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/16/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange

Based on our abstract ratings, we found that just over 4,000 papers took a position on the cause of global warming, 97.1% of which endorsed human-caused global warming. In the scientist self-ratings, nearly 1,400 papers were rated as taking a position, 97.2% of which endorsed human-caused global warming. Many papers captured in our literature search simply investigated an issue related to climate change without taking a position on its cause.

Our survey found that the consensus has grown slowly over time, and reached about 98% as of 2011. Our results are also consistent with several previous surveys finding a 97% consensus amongst climate experts on the human cause of global warming.

...However, vested interests have long realized this and engaged in a campaign to misinform the public about the scientific consensus. For example, a memo from communications strategist Frank Luntz leaked in 2002 advised Republicans,

"Should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly. Therefore, you need to continue to make the lack of scientific certainty a primary issue in the debate"


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I really, really like this man. mainer Mar 2014 #1
OK, good point. But Tyson needs to focus his telescope on his own pay stub Berlum Mar 2014 #2
Fox entertainment is NOT Fox News. nt longship Mar 2014 #3
But they sleep together Berlum Mar 2014 #6
Ailes only in charge of Fox News. longship Mar 2014 #7
And I'll stand by mine. Berlum Mar 2014 #8
I agree Tab Mar 2014 #13
Yup. But people see "Fox" and they associate it with the News arm of the company. longship Mar 2014 #14
More Important liberalmike27 Mar 2014 #12
How is Fox not Fox? seattledo Mar 2014 #27
As difficult as it is for me to even say it, pangaia Mar 2014 #29
Fox Entertainment vs Fox News. longship Mar 2014 #31
Very true. However I cut people I'm convinced truly care a break for partnering with monsters. raouldukelives Mar 2014 #9
No, he doesn't. MicaelS Mar 2014 #11
That he was 'allowed' to say and show some of what he did pangaia Mar 2014 #30
The problem is that the stuff about Bruno is at best slanted Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #35
I discovered that info about Bruno after seeing the show, pangaia Mar 2014 #37
Face it, you're just mad that science is cooler than woo. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #21
I've always admired and applied science, Berlum Mar 2014 #26
Like The Simpsons... progressoid Mar 2014 #24
Flat earthers are sad people Gothmog Mar 2014 #4
Neil DeGrasse Tyson once tried to clone a woolly mammoth in his garage Orrex Mar 2014 #5
The radical right The Wizard Mar 2014 #10
IMO, our MSM hypes faux conflict over settled science and censors legitimate critique by omission. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #15
Very sloppy when they have a typo like that in it. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #17
Maintstream? Ok, good catch, but a typo hardly negates their point, IMO.(nt) proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #19
Not just equal time; equal credulity. winter is coming Mar 2014 #16
True dat. There is no debate over climate change ... ananda Mar 2014 #18
The word you want is "credibility". "Credulity" is an attribute of the viewer, not presenters. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2014 #20
No, I actually did want "credulity", as in they present the stuff as if they've swallowed that BS. winter is coming Mar 2014 #23
, blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #22
It's not really an ethos. It's just laziness. nyquil_man Mar 2014 #25
The country has really lost it. The good news is if the country becomes the anti-science country, lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #28
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2014 #32
The "two-sides-to-every-issue" fallacy has turned our public debates into circuses. Jerry442 Mar 2014 #33
This thinking is actually monstrous!!! Shemp Howard Mar 2014 #34
Not exactly Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2014 #39
You're skirting the issue. Shemp Howard Mar 2014 #41
The claim that the Earth was the center of the solar system cpwm17 Mar 2014 #40
Luntz is an idiot. Shemp Howard Mar 2014 #42
The 'Climate Change' (the Orwellian type) believers Edim Mar 2014 #36
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Mar 2014 #38
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