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In reply to the discussion: The Obama Administration Has Been Very, Very Good To Banksters And Wall Streetians [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)80. No,
Bush and Obama are to blame for a situation out of which Wall Street was given the message that its greed was not just OK but almost vital to our national interests.
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So the benefits of the people working in the financial sector are sacrosanct while those of the 99% of working people -- not so much. Obama signed off on the bonuses for the financial sector. His representatives in the bail-out of the auto companies made the employees pay part of the losses of their employees in the form of contract changes.
Shows where Obama's heart is. Sorry. But those are the facts. And now, state after state is reducing teachers' salaries and cutting benefits. The bail-outs of Wall Street and of the auto companies started a trend.
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So the benefits of the people working in the financial sector are sacrosanct while those of the 99% of working people -- not so much. Obama signed off on the bonuses for the financial sector. His representatives in the bail-out of the auto companies made the employees pay part of the losses of their employees in the form of contract changes.
Shows where Obama's heart is. Sorry. But those are the facts. And now, state after state is reducing teachers' salaries and cutting benefits. The bail-outs of Wall Street and of the auto companies started a trend.
...those are not the "facts."
In fact, the claim that Obama "signed off on the bonuses for the financial sector" is completely bogus.
Here are the facts. Dodd-Frank reduced the TARP.
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The TARP program originally authorized expenditures of $700 billion. The DoddFrank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act reduced the amount authorized to $475 billion. By March 28, 2012, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) stated that total disbursements would be $431 billion and estimated the total cost, including grants for mortgage programs that have not yet been made, would be $32 billion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program
The TARP program originally authorized expenditures of $700 billion. The DoddFrank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act reduced the amount authorized to $475 billion. By March 28, 2012, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) stated that total disbursements would be $431 billion and estimated the total cost, including grants for mortgage programs that have not yet been made, would be $32 billion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troubled_Asset_Relief_Program
Dodd-Frank also included clawbacks for executive compensation.
Big fine imposed on ex-Goldman trader Tourre in SEC case
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024657852
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The Obama Administration Has Been Very, Very Good To Banksters And Wall Streetians [View all]
cali
Mar 2014
OP
I just came from a thread in which a poster was discussing "returns" on the NYSE since 2008...
Romulox
Mar 2014
#1
What's "astounding" is how many jump in to blame Obama for Wall Street bonuses.
ProSense
Mar 2014
#37
Bush and Obama are to blame for a situation out of which Wall Street was given the message
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#75
What does that have to do with the fact that the Wall Street labor/employment contract
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#81
Nonsense. You don't want him credited for the drop in profits, only the bonuses. n/t
ProSense
Mar 2014
#19
Don't try to deflect from the fact that you claimed Wall Street profits are good.
ProSense
Mar 2014
#52
Most investors are not Wall St. bankers. But you want to frame it as black/white
cprise
Mar 2014
#68
BTW: Who voted FOR Tarp and lobbyied other Democratic Senators to vote FOR TARP...
bvar22
Mar 2014
#125
Oh, I thought it was all Obama's fault. Sorry, I guess I misread your statement; so it is STILL
lumpy
Mar 2014
#109
What the hell does that have to do with blaming Obama for Wall Street bonuses? n/t
ProSense
Mar 2014
#22
How does one prosecute people for acts that were sleazy, but were still within written laws. nt
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#98
Obama hate causes some people to show their ignorance. Just think of the ridiculous rhetoric
lumpy
Mar 2014
#108
Again, what the hell does that have to do with you blaming Obama for Wall Street bonuses? n/t
ProSense
Mar 2014
#55
and today he is going to be 'very very good' to millions of workers who have been denied
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#28
The OP doesn't care about benefits that you gained from President Obama's efforts.
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#100
Agreed....they cannot believe Obama didn't give them their ponies, unicorns and flying cars!
VanillaRhapsody
Mar 2014
#115
Wall Street is about as "well regulated" as the "well regulated militias" we hear about.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2014
#29
You defense a counterpoint with name calling. That is elementary schoolyard behavior. nt
bluestate10
Mar 2014
#99
Yes...according to the TARP law that was passed in 2008, before Obama became President
Cali_Democrat
Mar 2014
#84
"I swear, some people here really do want a dictator. " Can you spell PROJECTION? nm
rhett o rick
Mar 2014
#96
Please forgive me for being a bit off-topic, but bonuses are something we should talk about.
JDPriestly
Mar 2014
#79
And so has Eric Holder, they are like the dynamic duo, dressed in green spandex...
pragmatic_dem
Mar 2014
#101