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SirRevolutionary

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108. I like to ask this question often

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:04 PM

Mar 2014

Have you ever in your life been a smoker for more than 6 months or otherwise been addicted to nicotine?

If the answer is no, than I don't know how you'd tell "nicotine addicts" that they're addicts in the first place or what it's like to be addicted.

I too bought into the mega anti smoking hype. When I initially quit smoking and moved to vapes with nicotine years ago, and later decided to drop the nicotine, it was a complete non-issue for me to lose the nicotine. My addiction or habit was the act of puffing (the very thing the Puritans don't want to see) but still my assertion on why ecigs are the best method to quit smoking. Most other former smokers I've spoken to agree it's the act of smoking, not the nicotine they're addicted to.

Either way, here's some interesting info on nicotine and caffeine and vaping http://www.tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/nicotine.htm

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The marketing of e cigs needs to be regulated just as cigarettes are. [View all] NCTraveler Mar 2014 OP

My personal problem with it is including vaporizers. antiquie Mar 2014 #1

If you read my op(don't mean that in a bad way, just clarifying)... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #3

Exactly Vox Moi Mar 2014 #53

Here is the rub nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #58

My pharmacy/dispensary has not yet been regulated. antiquie Mar 2014 #61

That is where you are wrong nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #62

Whatever you say. antiquie Mar 2014 #71

So pharmacies are not regulated? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #75

This is what dooms liberals, progressives, Democrats ... earthside Mar 2014 #2

It is so nanny... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #5

So make sales to children illegal. Period. It's that easy. And your contention of what is marketed KittyWampus Mar 2014 #8

You are clearly not being serious. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #11

"Totally Wicked". It looks like it appeals to Goths and Comic fans. You seem to have a very limited KittyWampus Mar 2014 #15

Once again, you are clearly not being serious. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #18

Maybe you think passion Sissyk Mar 2014 #74

Got the same memos we had at the time the very same tobacco companies were Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #22

Neither caffeine nor sugar are anything like tobacco Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #20

tobacco or nicotine? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #103

Nicotine Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #105

have you ever been addicted to any of those substances? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #111

No. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #112

That is said about every tenet of liberalism kcr Mar 2014 #29

They are NOT CIGARETTES. And you can't restrict the "free speech" of marketing KittyWampus Mar 2014 #4

You are wrong on about it being free speech. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #6

WTF? You are talking about logos and designs. That is how weak your argument is. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #9

Logos and designs... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #17

Have to reply again as I am truly baffeled by this statement. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #7

Anyone who doesn't grasp that e-cigs are not combustable cigarettes is "misguided". KittyWampus Mar 2014 #10

I'm sure your t shirt is cute. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #14

Don't allow them to be sold to children. That's how it easy it is. KittyWampus Mar 2014 #21

Because that worked so well with cigarettes. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #25

It works well enough for a free society. There are things called "Parents". KittyWampus Mar 2014 #27

You're right--we should get rid of all laws protecting children Orrex Mar 2014 #39

The poster you said that to is in favor Mariana Mar 2014 #66

Because the laws prohibiting ANY marketing of cigarettes are mostly enacted to protect children Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #110

Which also worked so well at countering the money and advertising genius Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #52

It has worked, extremely well. Mariana Mar 2014 #60

After tobacco marketing was regulated - Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #87

Cigarette advertizing has been restricted for many decades. Mariana Mar 2014 #93

Tobacco sales to minors have been in place for a little more than two decades. Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #104

You keep posting that list.. SomethingFishy Mar 2014 #51

+1000 Sissyk Mar 2014 #78

That's Because RobinA Mar 2014 #85

Agreed. n/t virgogal Mar 2014 #13

You can't? kcr Mar 2014 #31

Why not like alcohol, which Lush Society allows to make ads with puppies Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #12

"Why don't you object to the booze that puts the skid in Skid Row being marketed with Melon flavors" NCTraveler Mar 2014 #16

You were asked a question first. You should try answering it. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #24

"But your answer suggests you are fine with 'Redd's Strawberry' ads and Puppy laden beer ads." NCTraveler Mar 2014 #32

Your OP makes no mention of children, it does insist upon regulation of e-cigs Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #38

They are clearly marketed toward children. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #42

I don't agree with you on that, nor have you proved your point, nor do most Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #49

I'll be glad when these holy rollers have "won" Glitterati Mar 2014 #19

"I'll be glad when these holy rollers have "won"" NCTraveler Mar 2014 #23

Have fun. I'll be happy to see the next target. Glitterati Mar 2014 #26

Public health are holy crusades? nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #65

Bwahahahahahahahaha Glitterati Mar 2014 #69

I am not an ex smoker nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #70

Get back to me when it becomes a crusade Glitterati Mar 2014 #76

But the industry has targeted children nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #81

Bwahahahahaha Glitterati Mar 2014 #82

None is arguing that fast food has never targeted nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #86

Once again, you ASSUME wrong Glitterati Mar 2014 #88

You have been insulting all nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #91

ROFL Glitterati Mar 2014 #94

My lord nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #95

LOL Glitterati Mar 2014 #96

So people with a different opinion than you are paid to post? Shills? maddezmom Mar 2014 #77

ROFL, she can't keep up Glitterati Mar 2014 #83

Your OP does not mention children at all, nor marketing to them Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #30

I think you make a good point there. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #33

Stow your insults, you wrote bait. No one here is opposed to all regulation Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #43

I pretend nothing. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #44

Lets make the question extremely simple. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #46

They are a harm reduction boon to milions who should be aware of Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #50

"You favor the total advertising ban cigarettes have." NCTraveler Mar 2014 #54

The amounts were minimal. Nicotine inhalers contain higher amounst of many of the chemicals. OregonBlue Mar 2014 #28

I like this sentence a lot. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #36

Perhaps but in general I don't like regulations unless it's proven that something is bad for you. OregonBlue Mar 2014 #55

Greatly respect your position..... NCTraveler Mar 2014 #56

Not opposed to regulating the marketing but not sure why cigarettes would be the model Bonobo Mar 2014 #34

OK... I'll go along with this as soon as they regulate pork commercials. Fawke Em Mar 2014 #35

Turkey bacon...Seriously. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #37

Taste and price. pintobean Mar 2014 #41

.... tammywammy Mar 2014 #40

I'm opposed to the regulations I think you're talking about. ZombieHorde Mar 2014 #45

I do get your point. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #48

yeah .. don't market to kids .... yadda yadda yadda Trajan Mar 2014 #47

Agreed, they need to be regulated. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #57

The whole thing reeks of "moral panic" to me. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #59

+100! n/t zappaman Mar 2014 #63

+100 maddezmom Mar 2014 #64

+ a Brazilian.... opiate69 Mar 2014 #67

Yes cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #72

Yes. The fear seems to be that the "users" are "getting away with it." DirkGently Mar 2014 #98

+1000! SirRevolutionary Mar 2014 #101

Im +1ing your post... bunnies Mar 2014 #107

Exactly! They look like cigarettes and are therefore "bad" Glitterati Mar 2014 #109

Regulated as cigs, Yes and the marketing needs to rebranded as a 'stop smoking tool' instead�. Tikki Mar 2014 #68

Let me just ask the question: Why? Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #73

Sorry nicotine is measurably more addictive than caffeine�and harder to wean off of . Tikki Mar 2014 #79

I believe you misunderstand something. Mariana Mar 2014 #84

I stand by the fact that most do not use e-cigarettes on a regular basis without nicotine. Tikki Mar 2014 #90

It doesn't pick my pocket or gore my ox. Why do I care? Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #92

I am not telling any adult that they can not use e-cigarettes..but what the OP has posted is true... Tikki Mar 2014 #97

So, essentially this would be your ideal e-cig advertisement. Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #99

Clever�have you ever seen the warnings on cigarette packaging in other countries? Tikki Mar 2014 #102

E-cigs are not smoking tobacco. Period. Is that so hard to understand? Liberal Veteran Mar 2014 #106

What part of addiction do you not understand. It needs to go farther so that when a young adult... Tikki Mar 2014 #113

I like to ask this question often SirRevolutionary Mar 2014 #108

I can't figure out why some people are Sissyk Mar 2014 #80

Not marketed to children, no. But not regulated "just as cigarettes are." DirkGently Mar 2014 #89

You can't read the study without purchasing it SirRevolutionary Mar 2014 #100