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Mojo Electro

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106. Because of her lie which resulted in his death.

Thu Mar 13, 2014, 04:57 PM

Mar 2014

Had she not lied, the boy would likely be alive. She turned a boyfriend she brought home to an intruder from her father's point of view. I'm not defending the father at all, but a large portion of the blame lies with her. She invited the boy into her bedroom and then denied knowledge of him when confronted by her armed father. She is at least as responsible for his death as her trigger happy father is.

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Deputies: Dad fatally shoots teen boy found in daughter�s bedroom [View all] Catherine Vincent Mar 2014 OP

This asshole will probably get COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #1

Indeed cabot Mar 2014 #2

This is even beyond 'gun happy'. A poor COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #4

Not at all cabot Mar 2014 #7

Amen to that!!! nt COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #17

Assuming she invited him in, you are correct hack89 Mar 2014 #10

Certainly different but even so COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #15

If it was actually an intruder hack89 Mar 2014 #21

I agree that Dad is probably in a world of COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #80

Popcorn & Loud Music Are Definite Threats SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #96

Daughter Will Cover For Dad SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #91

you really want to make this about a 16 year old's vagina? WT Fing F? bettyellen Mar 2014 #127

What an odd post. And you know this...how? MADem Mar 2014 #128

Hey! This is a gunz discussion (GD)! Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #185

There is no sign of forced entry. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #16

I think the dad is in big trouble. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #23

Should the dad worry? absquatulatewithme Mar 2014 #26

He may be in big trouble for now but he isn't going to prison. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #41

of the house CatWoman Mar 2014 #146

Also, how much pressure will be put on the girl Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #78

Good question nt hack89 Mar 2014 #79

She has already admitted he was her boyfriend and that she let him in. nt tblue37 Mar 2014 #142

She admitted she did after he was shot--and after first lying about it. nt tblue37 Mar 2014 #141

YOu know I think Romeo and Juliet would have ended differently yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #181

You've seen Resevoir Dogs, right?? nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #190

I do remember that movie! yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #191

The girls hormones were probably raging also. Father fouled up many lives through his lumpy Mar 2014 #103

No question about it. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #114

Whut... the FUCK? sibelian Mar 2014 #203

Well, no probably not... sibelian Mar 2014 #207

I doubt it. Dad is black. He is more likely to go to prison. mucifer Mar 2014 #154

Seeing as it's Texas it's hard to tell. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #158

"Gotsta perteck th'virtue of our wimminfolk, dangit!" Aristus Mar 2014 #3

Do Texans really speak like that? nt hack89 Mar 2014 #9

were you offended CreekDog Mar 2014 #12

I was. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #13

why were you offended? CreekDog Mar 2014 #27

Because neither I nor my neighbors ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #30

have you complained to Jeff Foxworthy? CreekDog Mar 2014 #33

Does Jeff Foxworthy live next door to me? ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #35

now you're offended because the redneck stereotype was applied to Texas CreekDog Mar 2014 #37

No. I'm offended because you made a broadbrush statement against a place ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #40

+1. Thank you. (nt) Paladin Mar 2014 #56

i didn't say anything about Texas, if you're agreeing with her then you seem to be as confused CreekDog Mar 2014 #89

There's no confusion involved, here. (nt) Paladin Mar 2014 #97

Honestly, when you encounter even mild stereotyping of others(e.g. blacks), how do you respond? Anansi1171 Mar 2014 #58

Go search my responses when we were discussing ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #88

How can you be offended by something I never said? CreekDog Mar 2014 #87

Alerting... TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #112

I just didn't think African Americans talked like that. hack89 Mar 2014 #18

Oh, you think African Americans talk a certain way? CreekDog Mar 2014 #22

They certainly don't talk like white red necks. nt hack89 Mar 2014 #24

Ha, that's just not true. Bonx Mar 2014 #48

Heh... Actually, I've known a couple African Americans who grew up in small east texas towns penultimate Mar 2014 #76

Lived in Texas my whole life. tammywammy Mar 2014 #44

+100 narnian60 Mar 2014 #49

Regional stereotyping has got to stop. Springslips Mar 2014 #129

The father is African American for the record. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #11

Sorry. One reads 'Texas', 'gun', and 'shooting', Aristus Mar 2014 #14

but i think we can retain the stereotyping of overreacting, overprotective fathers who... CreekDog Mar 2014 #42

Yes we can. And we can also agree that they live all over. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #43

Thank you. Some feel they have a license to smear... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #187

So if. as you claim, this is not your attempt to imitate African-American speech patterns, Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #64

Was the teen boy an assailant or the daughter's boyfriend? Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #5

This has happened in my neighborhood. So far, "word" has it the daughter ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #6

Bet you what the boy was reaching for COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #19

Yup. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #25

Daughter Will Stick With Dad's Story SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #93

She already admitted she let him in. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #94

Doesn't say in the article. nt riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #8

Boyfriend. She later admitted to having let him in. nt tblue37 Mar 2014 #143

the first thought that popped into my head when I read the headline magical thyme Mar 2014 #20

My first thought was: "Texas? Or Oklahoma?" (nt) Heidi Mar 2014 #29

This is not the stereotypical Texas story for the record. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #32

What was your second thought? CBGLuthier Mar 2014 #39

I'm from Oklahoma, so it's more experience than sheer judgment. Heidi Mar 2014 #148

If I ever have a son LittleBlue Mar 2014 #31

I can remember being a teenager PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #59

They had only lived there a week and the daughter claimed that she didn't know the boy. Xithras Mar 2014 #34

More details have come out per the news. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #36

Thanks for the update! Catherine Vincent Mar 2014 #75

All Sorts Of Reasonable Doubt SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #95

No, he will probably not be asked to speak at the next NRA convention. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #100

Well, I'm an old geezer, but when I was a teenager, MineralMan Mar 2014 #38

+1 Common Sense B Calm Mar 2014 #45

Is Uncommon, indeed. MineralMan Mar 2014 #47

My dad lived to ninety and B Calm Mar 2014 #55

that's why they should not keep a gun around, my guess is this father is known JI7 Mar 2014 #50

Well, I've never been one for confrontations. MineralMan Mar 2014 #52

yes, they are not rational Skittles Mar 2014 #53

OK. As you say. MineralMan Mar 2014 #54

Yeah yeah, we get it. You were a special teenager. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #65

No, I wasn't special. Just careful. MineralMan Mar 2014 #71

this isn't about YOU Skittles Mar 2014 #68

Oh, OK. Thanks for letting me know. MineralMan Mar 2014 #70

you're welcome! Skittles Mar 2014 #81

some parents are ok with it like Sarah Palin so it depends on many things JI7 Mar 2014 #111

No. He was not rational at the time. He saw his daughter about to get raped (or so he thought) and madinmaryland Mar 2014 #132

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #99

How does this excuse murder? MattBaggins Mar 2014 #138

It excuses nothing. Nor did I say it did. MineralMan Mar 2014 #164

My daughter had a love for "bad boys" Drahthaardogs Mar 2014 #145

The daughter should be charged Lurks Often Mar 2014 #46

Charged with what being a typical teen caught upaloopa Mar 2014 #51

It was her lying that led to the 17 yr olds death Lurks Often Mar 2014 #57

A teen lying is not a crime and the shooter is upaloopa Mar 2014 #104

Pretty much the same ones the rest of the sane people follow: Lurks Often Mar 2014 #123

Do you own guns? Do you carry them? upaloopa Mar 2014 #131

I'm thinking a civil case could be brought against her by the parents of the slain boy. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #155

I don't know, the legal arguments will be interesting Lurks Often Mar 2014 #159

Interesting. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #163

Because of her lie which resulted in his death. Mojo Electro Mar 2014 #106

No he is dead because the dad shot him! upaloopa Mar 2014 #107

her lie led to the situation Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #113

The dad killed the kid get it! upaloopa Mar 2014 #115

her lie led Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #118

No no no upaloopa Mar 2014 #119

that one lie Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #120

You act like it happened in a vacuum... Mojo Electro Mar 2014 #122

I somewhat agree. sibelian Mar 2014 #173

What the hell is she supposed to do? Mopar151 Mar 2014 #61

I didn't realize you were a eyewitness to what happened Lurks Often Mar 2014 #63

It's right there in the Dad Job Description Mopar151 Mar 2014 #69

The dad sounds like the kind who could have shot the morningfog Mar 2014 #74

Didn't know you read minds Lurks Often Mar 2014 #85

You don't lurk often enough. morningfog Mar 2014 #108

Her lie caused the father to think the 17 year old was an intruder Lurks Often Mar 2014 #124

I don't follow the gun threads anymore. morningfog Mar 2014 #139

The 17 year old would still be alive if he hadn't been hiding under the bed... TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #72

The 17 year old would still be alive if the daughter hadn't lied about knowing him. n/t Lurks Often Mar 2014 #90

The 17 year old would still be alive... TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #110

I have taken use of force courses and understand the laws behind use of force Lurks Often Mar 2014 #125

I wonder how much the son knew... TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #130

Another thing... TeeYiYi Mar 2014 #136

Again, the daughter told the father that she did not know the 17 year old Lurks Often Mar 2014 #149

Well that is just stupid. morningfog Mar 2014 #73

Thank you for your insightful analysis of what happened n/t Lurks Often Mar 2014 #86

It's far more insightful that your want to blame the girl. morningfog Mar 2014 #109

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #162

What on EARTH? sibelian Mar 2014 #170

I think she's at fault too renate Mar 2014 #77

I guess he could not have held the kid at gun point and call 911 upaloopa Mar 2014 #117

He did call 911 . . . after his daughter said she didn't know the young man under her bed. (n/t) Petrushka Mar 2014 #175

But he didn't trust the police so he decided he'd better shoot upaloopa Mar 2014 #178

No, because he didn't comply when told by the father to stay still, CVN-68 Mar 2014 #182

Not me I don't carry a gun upaloopa Mar 2014 #183

How do you know the kid would still be alive if the father didn't have a gun? CVN-68 Mar 2014 #186

Really? Petrushka Mar 2014 #195

That's like blaming a rape on a rape victim. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #133

She lied to her father and made him believe the 17 year old was an intruder Lurks Often Mar 2014 #150

? sibelian Mar 2014 #171

What's hard to understand? Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #174

Er... sibelian Mar 2014 #202

And, the latest update says that the boy was actually in bed with her, CVN-68 Mar 2014 #205

Congratulations, that's the dumbest thing I've heard on here all day. Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #134

What should she be charged with? morningfog Mar 2014 #140

A lot would depend on the exact wording of Texas law Lurks Often Mar 2014 #151

Lol. And would this be instead of or in addition to the dad? morningfog Mar 2014 #153

If the story at the link was accurate, a Grand Jury is probably going to no bill him. n/t Lurks Often Mar 2014 #156

You didn't answer my other question. Are you one of the gun nuts? morningfog Mar 2014 #157

Your question is irrelevant, which is why I haven't answered it Lurks Often Mar 2014 #160

What is your position on gun rights? morningfog Mar 2014 #177

What is relevant is that if the daughter had not lied Lurks Often Mar 2014 #194

It seems safe to assume you are towards the gun nut side since you are dodging. morningfog Mar 2014 #198

Thanks for the proof that you rather go with your pre-conceived biases Lurks Often Mar 2014 #211

Of course you are. Lol. morningfog Mar 2014 #214

LOL! Can we have a Stupid Post of the Day Award for this one please? flvegan Mar 2014 #144

The father lacked common sense and reasoning abilities... penultimate Mar 2014 #165

The link lacks enough detail to determine Lurks Often Mar 2014 #167

He did call 911 . . . when his daughter said she didn't know the young man under her bed. However: Petrushka Mar 2014 #189

I suppose we'll see how it plays out in court. penultimate Mar 2014 #196

Highly doubt it's going to court. CVN-68 Mar 2014 #197

Yeah, I just read that... penultimate Mar 2014 #199

According to the most recent update, the boy was actually in bed with her, CVN-68 Mar 2014 #201

If I saw a boy in my daughter's bed, my first thought wouldn't be to grab a gun though penultimate Mar 2014 #206

If I had reason to believe that there was an unknown stranger in my daughter's rooom, CVN-68 Mar 2014 #208

Oh, please gollygee Mar 2014 #166

That kid would be alive today if the daughter hadn't lied Lurks Often Mar 2014 #168

I don't buy it gollygee Mar 2014 #169

And what facts that we are aware of support your theory? n/t Lurks Often Mar 2014 #212

It's also possible she is lying to protect her father... penultimate Mar 2014 #200

There are posts up thread that indicate the daughter Lurks Often Mar 2014 #213

What makes you think NobodyHere Mar 2014 #176

Medications? FarCenter Mar 2014 #60

"....he complained that he was not feeling well" Sheepshank Mar 2014 #66

Lock this guy up and throw away the key. n/t AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #62

"There was some type of altercation..." MO_Moderate Mar 2014 #67

The dad will just say he felt like his life or daughter's was threatened meadowlark5 Mar 2014 #82

And A Lawyer Will Get Paid To Give That Exact Argument SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #101

Was the Boy black? bigdarryl Mar 2014 #83

The boy and the girl's father were both black. FarCenter Mar 2014 #84

The Good 'Ol "I Saw Him Reach For Something" Defense SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #98

Well....when I got caught in my girlfriend's bedroom.... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #102

This girl is going to need therapy for the rest of her life. Pisces Mar 2014 #105

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #116

Again, this is a relatively diverse area. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2014 #121

I bet she has trouble getting dates after this. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #126

That's the understatement of the year. In_The_Wind Mar 2014 #137

Oh no! You mean they DID pass Sharia Law in Texas? (nt) scarletwoman Mar 2014 #135

Confiscate ALL guns, melt them down. Life in prison for holdouts. PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #147

You understand there is no chance of that happening don't you? n/t Lurks Often Mar 2014 #152

The private prison industry applauds this NobodyHere Mar 2014 #161

Do the words "Fairy tales" ring any bells? CVN-68 Mar 2014 #184

Here... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2014 #188

Nope. No power to you. nt Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #192

Nice post, PowerToThePolice. Dr. Strange Mar 2014 #216

The daughter could be tried for manslaughter. hooptie Mar 2014 #172

The girl is 16 and therefore a minor Redford Mar 2014 #180

UPDATE: No Charges Will Likely Be Filed According To Police SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #179

So now, according to the update, the boy was in her bed? CVN-68 Mar 2014 #193

A Lot Of Stuff Is "Reasonable" Nowadays In Gun Lovin' America! SoCalMusicLover Mar 2014 #204

I caught my oldest daughter playing strip poker in her bedroom Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #209

Father was wheel chair bound, crawled into room where they were Blue Diadem Mar 2014 #210

I don't have a gun...but when my daughters are teenagers, if I find a boy in their room.... cbdo2007 Mar 2014 #215