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Shankapotomus

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6. You have to take into account

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 10:00 AM

Mar 2014

that some of the nasty stuff the President agrees to may be out of political strategy. If indeed, he is someone who is twelve moves ahead of Republicans, you have to at least theorize a lot of what he does is aimed at trapping Republicans. In other words, if you know what they want will go wrong, give it to them and then you are in a much better position to negotiate or even demand what you really want later on.

The difference is we can mostly be sure Robertson, to a large extent, really believes the crap he sells.

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Let me ask you a question. [View all] WilliamPitt Mar 2014 OP

Robertson is crazier...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #1

It's nice when the first answer is the correct one. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #18

+1 eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #38

Always.. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #20

Robertson is crazier...nt Phentex Mar 2014 #2

robinson is a windbag without real power. He is the less crazy one here. roguevalley Mar 2014 #99

Uff da! One thing has nothing to do with the other. MineralMan Mar 2014 #3

True shenmue Mar 2014 #77

No excuse needed for that, though. MineralMan Mar 2014 #78

I knew before I clicked the link that it would sheshe2 Mar 2014 #97

Oh, knock it off. Will is a supporter of President Obama, just as I am. tavalon Mar 2014 #103

Have to go with Jerry Brown's fracking in a drought policies n/t reddread Mar 2014 #4

Fracking in earthquake prone state too. abelenkpe Mar 2014 #19

Religious crazy trumps Economic follies seveneyes Mar 2014 #5

However, making global climate change worse mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #26

Political and economic crazy seems to kill... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #69

You have to take into account Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #6

Do you have any examples of how that strategy has worked so far? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #39

Well, when you're 12 steps ahead... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #48

So, those who haven't seen the last step, where we win on these important sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #53

on the other hand... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #67

Yes, you're missing three steps. How about: sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #70

OH! Nailed it!!!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #72

there is a great game being played. tomp Mar 2014 #109

or, apparently, be held accountable for ANYTHING Skittles Mar 2014 #92

That I can't account for Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #50

Well, on that question I think, and always have, that Robertson is crazy. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #56

There has been offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico cheapdate Mar 2014 #102

Oh gawd. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #71

don't you understand, SammyWinstonJack? Skittles Mar 2014 #91

Elmer Gantry--Oops--I mean Pat "Blood Diamond" Robertson Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #86

While BP is trying to halt its spill payments - and back out of the settlement it signed? jsr Mar 2014 #7

Well..... Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #8

billions of barrels of toxic oil and gas waste are falling through regulatory cracks Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #32

In the Crazy Derby it's Robertson by two lengths. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #9

+1 whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #89

I can only worry about reality, so the Obama administration decision is crazier. mmonk Mar 2014 #10

When the human race is facing a potentially extinction level crisis, truebluegreen Mar 2014 #11

I disagree with you on Robertson; he is definitely THE crazy one by far. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #96

Well... Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #12

Yep. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #76

crazy is bitching about a single pipeline snooper2 Mar 2014 #13

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #47

Yes, all of the pipelines do create a hazard. Pipelines are less of a hazard than rail or truck... mrdmk Mar 2014 #93

Not true. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #100

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #101

They both work together zeemike Mar 2014 #14

+++ for Truth marions ghost Mar 2014 #58

and crazy and cynical have simultaneously been converging MisterP Mar 2014 #85

Robetson may be clinically crazier randr Mar 2014 #15

what's crazy is people who drive cars complaining about oil production nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #16

crazy is thinking that sort of intellectual shortcut fools Democratic voters. reddread Mar 2014 #25

is there carbon-neutral oil? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #27

people use bicycles, buses trains subways car pool walk run reddread Mar 2014 #28

this thread is complaining that oil production increases global warming geek tragedy Mar 2014 #31

Not all driving habits are equal, not all cars are equal. cali Mar 2014 #37

fracking is bad because of its localized effects, especially pollution geek tragedy Mar 2014 #40

fracking is particularly bad in this country because of the insane explosion cali Mar 2014 #43

i agree with that, that's the argument to use against fracking nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #44

That's kind of like blaming the people in a country where their government deprives sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #42

What? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #49

I get criticisms of certain kinds of extraction--they are all not the same geek tragedy Mar 2014 #52

But ... But ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #54

I figure not owning a car, not having kids, using public transportation, geek tragedy Mar 2014 #57

Not good enough ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #60

not allowed in Brooklyn, I'm afraid geek tragedy Mar 2014 #64

Excuses ... excuses ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #66

There are other forms of energy. Has that occurred to you? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #73

I rely on public transporation that runs on electricity, so yes I know nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #74

if God wanted to mock Global Warming demwing Mar 2014 #17

Not crazy- corrupt n2doc Mar 2014 #21

I think you are arguing a God of the gaps question. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #22

One is "crazy" one is "murderous" PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #23

Robertson is crazier bigwillq Mar 2014 #24

Will, did you let your teabagger cousin have access to your account again? aikoaiko Mar 2014 #29

At least Robertson is honest about his agenda. nt GliderGuider Mar 2014 #30

Only one of the Two is Having More of an Effect on Our Existence fascisthunter Mar 2014 #33

Congrats on 29,000 posts! bigwillq Mar 2014 #36

Thanks fascisthunter Mar 2014 #62

Robertson is crazy. The President is sadly a corporate player. cali Mar 2014 #34

What's Crazy is that Pat Robertson's discussion with God isn't anything bkanderson76 Mar 2014 #35

Calling for assasination of a president or sending out drones to kill Americans? L0oniX Mar 2014 #41

Why do you hate Obama? Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #45

Not sure. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #46

Robertson will die very soon, Obama's decisions will live on for generations WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #51

So, Obama is doing God's work if he caves to the oil/gas industry...again? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #55

Robertson is obviously a victim of dementia tea and oranges Mar 2014 #59

Not to deminish the importance of Keystone XL, but I think it is simply a distraction harun Mar 2014 #61

Because it will be carrying tar sands oil WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #68

Robertson Throd Mar 2014 #63

Robertson is crazy and soliciting favors, Obama is paying back the favors. Autumn Mar 2014 #65

They're both playing multi-dimensional chess ... Martin Eden Mar 2014 #75

I believe that Mother Earth is a living being, and that all the motherfrackers Zorra Mar 2014 #79

What's crazier, Robertson saying God shut offt the power or Francis saying Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #80

You know ProSense Mar 2014 #81

You've touched on something unpleasant that people don't want to face up to. JVS Mar 2014 #82

"But the policies don't match the rhetoric" WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #87

I'm fairly sure you've noticed by now, Will, this place has become very black and white tavalon Mar 2014 #105

The black and white of our society is born from the lack of representation in any form in our lives MindMover Mar 2014 #108

You asked, so I answer rock Mar 2014 #83

Both. Fearless Mar 2014 #84

It's not crazy when it's intentional. The real question becomes WHY is Obama doing that? cui bono Mar 2014 #88

K&R n/t whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #90

Coin toss time. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #94

If a teabagger tells you there is no Global Warming just quote Psalms classykaren Mar 2014 #95

What is crazy is that Pat has held conversations with presidents. Rex Mar 2014 #98

But it's true!!! It's true!!! DeSwiss Mar 2014 #104

Let me give you an answer. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #106

oh and another thing. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #107