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In reply to the discussion: Dashcam Footage Released of 70 Year Old Man Shot over Expired License Plate [View all]TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)or actually fires a gun at them. There's no question whatsoever that this officer believed the thing the man was taking out of his pick up bed was a long barreled gun, and he had every legitimate reason to believe that it was because of everything the man did in getting out of his vehicle, ignoring the officer's shouts to stop and pulling what he most certainly believed was a long barreled gun out of the bed of his pick up and would have appeared to be a long barreled gun by the average person in that situation. What if it was a gun just as the officer believed? How long does he have to watch and wait when he is sure that the object is a gun already before doing something about it? In a cop's experience when someone they pull over gets out of their vehicle and starts walking toward you it's trouble. When they ignore you and pull something out of their vehicle that appears to be a weapon, and they have every belief that it is at the time just how long are they supposed to wait and do nothing before being shot at?
All of this man's actions were stupid the first one being getting out of his vehicle, and he escalated the situation from there by his own actions. Everyone knows that when you get pulled over by a cop you DON'T get out of your vehicle especially when they TELL you not to before going back to their cruiser to write the ticket.
I don't care about whatever the case is of a teen being shot because of a game controller in his hand. What the hell does that have to do with THIS case? Not a fucking thing. How is it that I seem to be the only one here that is open minded and judges any case - if that's even possible with the given information - on nothing but its own merits? The merits of THIS case in question is a man that did everything wrong and gave the officer every reason to believe that he was pulling a long barreled weapon out of the bed of his truck. It's very sad that his own actions got himself shot. Had he not done these inexplicable things he wouldn't have been.
Police aren't mind readers, and their training and experience tells them what is a dangerous situation. Not being a cop if for some reason this guy was parked in front of me, got out of his vehicle and started toward me despite my shouts to stop and went ahead and pulled what appeared to be a long barreled gun out of his truck bed I'd also believe that's what it was and have been shitting my pants with every belief that I was about to be shot or otherwise attacked. The very last thing I would have imagined he'd be pulling out of his truck bed would be a walking cane.
Why was his wife in the passenger seat lucky she wasn't also shot? She wasn't DOING anything that merited any fear in the cop and was no where near her husband when he was shot... there was no reason to shoot her, and with the firearms training they get they can sure as hell easily miss shooting someone that far away from the target. Had he shot so wildly far from the target in weapons training he wouldn't have been issued a weapon in the first place. At least she was smart enough to keep her ass in her seat, not get out of the vehicle, not ignore shouts to stop nor reach into the truck bed and pull out what appeared to be a long barreled weapon.