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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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67. on the other hand...

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:35 PM

Mar 2014

...let's look at TPP, an agreement Obama clearly opposes. How do we know this? Let's look at steps 1 thru 12.

Step 1: join the TPPA (2011)
Step 2: seek fast-track TPP
Step 3: popular opposition swells
Step 4: Congressional opposition grows
Step 5: Congress blocks fast-track
Step 6: Congress does nothing and business as usual for years
Step 7: Nearing the end of his term, Obama begins to second guess the wisdom of TPP
Step 8: Obama admin stops defending TPP
Step 9: Obama comes out and says, "No deal."

Did it in 9 steps Obama!!!

We're at the start of Step 6 now. Working exactly as planned!!!!!!!!!! But cannot claim victory for a few more years. Darn, have to look for another example of 12 step success.

I know!!!

Step 1: I admitted I was powerless over alcohol...

No, that's not it!!!!!!!!

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Let me ask you a question. [View all] WilliamPitt Mar 2014 OP

Robertson is crazier...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #1

It's nice when the first answer is the correct one. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2014 #18

+1 eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #38

Always.. mountain grammy Mar 2014 #20

Robertson is crazier...nt Phentex Mar 2014 #2

robinson is a windbag without real power. He is the less crazy one here. roguevalley Mar 2014 #99

Uff da! One thing has nothing to do with the other. MineralMan Mar 2014 #3

True shenmue Mar 2014 #77

No excuse needed for that, though. MineralMan Mar 2014 #78

I knew before I clicked the link that it would sheshe2 Mar 2014 #97

Oh, knock it off. Will is a supporter of President Obama, just as I am. tavalon Mar 2014 #103

Have to go with Jerry Brown's fracking in a drought policies n/t reddread Mar 2014 #4

Fracking in earthquake prone state too. abelenkpe Mar 2014 #19

Religious crazy trumps Economic follies seveneyes Mar 2014 #5

However, making global climate change worse mindwalker_i Mar 2014 #26

Political and economic crazy seems to kill... LanternWaste Mar 2014 #69

You have to take into account Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #6

Do you have any examples of how that strategy has worked so far? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #39

Well, when you're 12 steps ahead... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #48

So, those who haven't seen the last step, where we win on these important sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #53

on the other hand... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #67

Yes, you're missing three steps. How about: sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #70

OH! Nailed it!!!! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #72

there is a great game being played. tomp Mar 2014 #109

or, apparently, be held accountable for ANYTHING Skittles Mar 2014 #92

That I can't account for Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #50

Well, on that question I think, and always have, that Robertson is crazy. sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #56

There has been offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico cheapdate Mar 2014 #102

Oh gawd. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #71

don't you understand, SammyWinstonJack? Skittles Mar 2014 #91

Elmer Gantry--Oops--I mean Pat "Blood Diamond" Robertson Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #86

While BP is trying to halt its spill payments - and back out of the settlement it signed? jsr Mar 2014 #7

Well..... Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #8

billions of barrels of toxic oil and gas waste are falling through regulatory cracks Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #32

In the Crazy Derby it's Robertson by two lengths. 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #9

+1 whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #89

I can only worry about reality, so the Obama administration decision is crazier. mmonk Mar 2014 #10

When the human race is facing a potentially extinction level crisis, truebluegreen Mar 2014 #11

I disagree with you on Robertson; he is definitely THE crazy one by far. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #96

Well... Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #12

Yep. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2014 #76

crazy is bitching about a single pipeline snooper2 Mar 2014 #13

+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #47

Yes, all of the pipelines do create a hazard. Pipelines are less of a hazard than rail or truck... mrdmk Mar 2014 #93

Not true. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #100

Okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #101

They both work together zeemike Mar 2014 #14

+++ for Truth marions ghost Mar 2014 #58

and crazy and cynical have simultaneously been converging MisterP Mar 2014 #85

Robetson may be clinically crazier randr Mar 2014 #15

what's crazy is people who drive cars complaining about oil production nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #16

crazy is thinking that sort of intellectual shortcut fools Democratic voters. reddread Mar 2014 #25

is there carbon-neutral oil? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #27

people use bicycles, buses trains subways car pool walk run reddread Mar 2014 #28

this thread is complaining that oil production increases global warming geek tragedy Mar 2014 #31

Not all driving habits are equal, not all cars are equal. cali Mar 2014 #37

fracking is bad because of its localized effects, especially pollution geek tragedy Mar 2014 #40

fracking is particularly bad in this country because of the insane explosion cali Mar 2014 #43

i agree with that, that's the argument to use against fracking nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #44

That's kind of like blaming the people in a country where their government deprives sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #42

What? ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #49

I get criticisms of certain kinds of extraction--they are all not the same geek tragedy Mar 2014 #52

But ... But ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #54

I figure not owning a car, not having kids, using public transportation, geek tragedy Mar 2014 #57

Not good enough ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #60

not allowed in Brooklyn, I'm afraid geek tragedy Mar 2014 #64

Excuses ... excuses ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2014 #66

There are other forms of energy. Has that occurred to you? sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #73

I rely on public transporation that runs on electricity, so yes I know nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #74

if God wanted to mock Global Warming demwing Mar 2014 #17

Not crazy- corrupt n2doc Mar 2014 #21

I think you are arguing a God of the gaps question. fleabiscuit Mar 2014 #22

One is "crazy" one is "murderous" PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #23

Robertson is crazier bigwillq Mar 2014 #24

Will, did you let your teabagger cousin have access to your account again? aikoaiko Mar 2014 #29

At least Robertson is honest about his agenda. nt GliderGuider Mar 2014 #30

Only one of the Two is Having More of an Effect on Our Existence fascisthunter Mar 2014 #33

Congrats on 29,000 posts! bigwillq Mar 2014 #36

Thanks fascisthunter Mar 2014 #62

Robertson is crazy. The President is sadly a corporate player. cali Mar 2014 #34

What's Crazy is that Pat Robertson's discussion with God isn't anything bkanderson76 Mar 2014 #35

Calling for assasination of a president or sending out drones to kill Americans? L0oniX Mar 2014 #41

Why do you hate Obama? Capt. Obvious Mar 2014 #45

Not sure. WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #46

Robertson will die very soon, Obama's decisions will live on for generations WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #51

So, Obama is doing God's work if he caves to the oil/gas industry...again? Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #55

Robertson is obviously a victim of dementia tea and oranges Mar 2014 #59

Not to deminish the importance of Keystone XL, but I think it is simply a distraction harun Mar 2014 #61

Because it will be carrying tar sands oil WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #68

Robertson Throd Mar 2014 #63

Robertson is crazy and soliciting favors, Obama is paying back the favors. Autumn Mar 2014 #65

They're both playing multi-dimensional chess ... Martin Eden Mar 2014 #75

I believe that Mother Earth is a living being, and that all the motherfrackers Zorra Mar 2014 #79

What's crazier, Robertson saying God shut offt the power or Francis saying Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #80

You know ProSense Mar 2014 #81

You've touched on something unpleasant that people don't want to face up to. JVS Mar 2014 #82

"But the policies don't match the rhetoric" WilliamPitt Mar 2014 #87

I'm fairly sure you've noticed by now, Will, this place has become very black and white tavalon Mar 2014 #105

The black and white of our society is born from the lack of representation in any form in our lives MindMover Mar 2014 #108

You asked, so I answer rock Mar 2014 #83

Both. Fearless Mar 2014 #84

It's not crazy when it's intentional. The real question becomes WHY is Obama doing that? cui bono Mar 2014 #88

K&R n/t whatchamacallit Mar 2014 #90

Coin toss time. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #94

If a teabagger tells you there is no Global Warming just quote Psalms classykaren Mar 2014 #95

What is crazy is that Pat has held conversations with presidents. Rex Mar 2014 #98

But it's true!!! It's true!!! DeSwiss Mar 2014 #104

Let me give you an answer. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #106

oh and another thing. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #107