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TheKentuckian

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112. A year ago was cool but now it is a problem.I think the 2016 problem is only a problem if

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 12:40 PM

Mar 2014

Madam Inevitable isn't being pushed. Why? Because only the response is an issue that and the only thing the 2014 only set has to say about is 2014!!! No talk of good liberals that need help in coming primaries, no talk of districts that can be flipped and need help. Far as it goes is a little Grimes talk (which is appreciated) and some seemingly fading support for Wendy Davis. I think this is because they are women and not particularly liberal.

No real talk of ideas or policy. No message or agenda at all except 2014!, accusations of folks not voting, circling the wagons around the security state, defenses of capitalism/shut and learn to love the oligarchy, pissing on whistle blowers, shitting on liberals, Red scaremongering, and chasing independents but only with policy pursuits that they don't seem to be particularly attracted to and when they don't come rather than to face that the tactics and strategies aren't having the expected results the left is blamed reflexively.

Shit, this time I think the foundation is being laid to deflect from a fuck load of fail coming down the pipe because certain folks know absolutely no effort is going to be made to actually convince or inspire voters and the blame must be laid and excuses must be made for going more corporate reactionary because that is the actual agenda, not a side effect.

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The Sink Loss in Florida Tells Us One Thing [View all] MineralMan Mar 2014 OP

Yes, Repukes get the vote out better. Like roaches, or SS officers, they can overwhelm an area Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #1

Actually, they weren't that badly beaten. Only a few points. riqster Mar 2014 #3

Turnout is VERY important considering the evil scum we're opposing. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #5

Yes. If only a small group of additional Democratic voters MineralMan Mar 2014 #8

4 votes in the last election gave Ohio Repubes total control of the state. riqster Mar 2014 #10

+1000 MineralMan Mar 2014 #25

Special elections are known to bring out more republicans. With a normal dem turnout she'd win TheNutcracker Mar 2014 #79

I bet if we had "Vote By Mail" the media would be telling a different story Bandit Mar 2014 #11

That kind of thing can work FOR us. riqster Mar 2014 #17

Most of the vote here was vote by mail... Sancho Mar 2014 #35

would have been much worse if that libertarian had not also been in the race DrDan Mar 2014 #18

Indeed. That made this a very winnable election. riqster Mar 2014 #19

Heard this morning Jolly beat Sink by 12 points on election day votes flpoljunkie Mar 2014 #60

The Prexy is doing his bit. Some others are actively working against increasing turnout. riqster Mar 2014 #62

The actual numbers are nowhere near 12 points: riqster Mar 2014 #63

Election day vote, not total votes. Jolly got 28,345 election day to Sink's 21,900. flpoljunkie Mar 2014 #73

Yes, but that gives a false impression of the actual margin. riqster Mar 2014 #77

It tells you just how many dems to repubs stayed HOME ON VOTING DAY TheNutcracker Mar 2014 #86

Ah, now I see your point. riqster Mar 2014 #87

Then we need to outperform them MineralMan Mar 2014 #4

Yes, but that requires work, and the yappers and whiners attacking Obama (and holding the hands Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #6

Yes, exactly. MineralMan Mar 2014 #7

Yes it's the fault of *anyone* *except* the Democrats Fumesucker Mar 2014 #49

Oh you're SO RIGHT! GW Bush was a Democrat, so was Cheney, etc. Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #98

Well, it looks as if they did their jobs. By distracting from a very important House race BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #53

It's called ratfucking. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #54

There are some on DU who are doing just that Skidmore Mar 2014 #88

Ratfucking has meant, historically, concerns raised from the "Left" and presented as msanthrope Mar 2014 #90

Yep. Occurs with regularity on DU. Skidmore Mar 2014 #92

K&R & GOTFV! riqster Mar 2014 #2

Turnout will be better in November. Laelth Mar 2014 #9

Better isn't good enough. MineralMan Mar 2014 #13

Yeah, but 2010. riqster Mar 2014 #14

In 2010, my State either met or broke midterm turn out records depending Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #67

Bollocks. Coming from a deep Blue state, and act as though everyone else does too. riqster Mar 2014 #70

I am also from a deep blue state and I think you have lots more difficulties than we have. CTyankee Mar 2014 #85

Sounds great. We could learn a lot! riqster Mar 2014 #89

Then why the hell isn't this happening NOW! CTyankee Mar 2014 #91

No ... not in midterms frazzled Mar 2014 #15

You're right. We need to talk to every voter and show them MineralMan Mar 2014 #20

I don't know what it was like in Florida on Tuesday... Blanks Mar 2014 #111

If young people and minorities don't come out ... frazzled Mar 2014 #12

My district is not in question, although we need a high turnout in it MineralMan Mar 2014 #16

Of course, there are other races here too frazzled Mar 2014 #24

Young people need more guidance to help them know libertarians are NOT their party! cascadiance Mar 2014 #28

If you spend the entire time viciously attacking libertarians Fumesucker Mar 2014 #50

I'm not "viciously" attacking libertarians... I agree with them on many of the visible issues too... cascadiance Mar 2014 #65

Not you in particular but the loathing for anything remotely "libertarian" on DU is epic Fumesucker Mar 2014 #66

Yes, I run in to that frequently when I defend Snowden's actions in many threads... cascadiance Mar 2014 #68

Well, Dennis Kucinich was considering Ron Paul as a MineralMan Mar 2014 #76

That's hardly an answer which young people would understand Fumesucker Mar 2014 #97

I was speaking more of him as a libertarian and how he stands there than his personal qualities cascadiance Mar 2014 #102

it's a great wakeup call. better to get that lesson down now magical thyme Mar 2014 #21

Florida Democrats have a lot to overcome. antiquie Mar 2014 #22

And that should inspire election activists even more. MineralMan Mar 2014 #23

Activism is the only way to stop their crap. ~ nt antiquie Mar 2014 #31

+100 MineralMan Mar 2014 #32

this area was carried by the repuke for the last 32 years warrior1 Mar 2014 #26

Yes, I know that. But this election was close. MineralMan Mar 2014 #27

we could have won warrior1 Mar 2014 #29

There's no magical way. You have to convince MineralMan Mar 2014 #33

k&r& GOTV 2014 !!! nt steve2470 Mar 2014 #30

It says we need a candidate that does not want to sell austerity, cuts in SS and fixing Obamacare .. MindMover Mar 2014 #34

It also tells us 840high Mar 2014 #36

Here's my take from voting here over 20 years.... Sancho Mar 2014 #37

I got my card to request absentee ballot for November HockeyMom Mar 2014 #46

So when we get our asses collectively kicked in November ... Scuba Mar 2014 #38

Exactly: Message Octafish Mar 2014 #40

Yep. Sitting back expecting inspiration treestar Mar 2014 #42

rather than trying to win with some sort of a minority hfojvt Mar 2014 #74

Well would not that be abounding principle? treestar Mar 2014 #93

Steps on too many wealthy, powerful and connected toes Fumesucker Mar 2014 #99

This is an exercise in setting up a scapegoat for late November, that's all Fumesucker Mar 2014 #51

Yes... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #56

I wonder if the OP ever urged GOTV at Free Republic? Fumesucker Mar 2014 #59

Now now...we must look and move forward and forget about the recent past Rex Mar 2014 #94

Midterms aren't about national platform. They are about GOTV and almost nothing else. Having msanthrope Mar 2014 #55

Sure worked well in 2010, eh? Scuba Mar 2014 #61

We didn't GOTV. nt msanthrope Mar 2014 #75

Not really, moderates stayed home in droves. Rex Mar 2014 #95

Why so negative. It's always bash Democrats and Obama. Never any ideas. But always the bluestate10 Mar 2014 #103

I seem to be getting more cynical in my old age. No idea why. I'll try to rein it in. Scuba Mar 2014 #107

If Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC) loses it will be because of Obamacare. WorseBeforeBetter Mar 2014 #108

Close is still a loss . . . Iliyah Mar 2014 #39

+10000000000 treestar Mar 2014 #41

Get more women to the polls. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #43

Just get more Democrats to the polls. MineralMan Mar 2014 #44

Need the demographics data.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2014 #47

Eh, recall a bunch of Democratic politicians endorsed Christie.. Fumesucker Mar 2014 #52

SOCIAL MEDIA is only way Dems will win. ErikJ Mar 2014 #45

They also pay off "independent" voters better. We think voters will get up and vote on the issueS. ancianita Mar 2014 #48

That's why we shouldn't be fighting the 2016 primary wars now.....and why we should be suspicious msanthrope Mar 2014 #57

I agree, and have an OP on that very subject still on the GD MineralMan Mar 2014 #71

The Clintonistas started the inevitable shit prior to the last inauguration and were huffing that TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #78

Funny..what current thread is started by a 'Clintonista?' I'm not talking about a year ago..I'm msanthrope Mar 2014 #81

A year ago was cool but now it is a problem.I think the 2016 problem is only a problem if TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #112

Amen, MN 6th Congressional District ... OldBoss Mar 2014 #58

Yes. I think it can be flipped in 2014. MineralMan Mar 2014 #72

This is how the Republicans do it... polynomial Mar 2014 #64

Sink sux and the district went repuke for 44 years NightWatcher Mar 2014 #69

Sink is a former President of Florida Operations at NationsBank, now Bank of America. FarCenter Mar 2014 #80

Is it? I don't know. MineralMan Mar 2014 #83

Some people would rather find fault than roll up their sleeves and bring about change. bluestate10 Mar 2014 #105

Not really. The class-ism that a good Democrat is only someone that can barely rub bluestate10 Mar 2014 #104

It is a wake up call about getting our base out. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #82

Our base and everyone else who will cast their vote MineralMan Mar 2014 #84

When Dems get their own version of the M$M call me... Rex Mar 2014 #96

Nah, I'm too busy trying to turn out voters. MineralMan Mar 2014 #100

You're doing the right thing, tune out the negative DU members. nt bluestate10 Mar 2014 #106

misplaced anger politicman Mar 2014 #101

That we need to stop running candidates who don't believe in Dem principles Doctor_J Mar 2014 #109

Delusional Dems JackHughes Mar 2014 #110