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jeff47

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79. Nope.

Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:43 PM

Mar 2014

We understand that there should actually be a series of steps before a police officer fires his gun. It is not "stand there" -> "fire".

The video shows that the officer should have, at most, drawn his weapon. The "rifle" was not pointed at him, or any other person. He did not need to fire yet.

I could not tell what the hell that guy was pulling out of the back of his pickup.

Which means you don't get to shoot, unless it appears to be pointed at someone, or being aimed at someone.

Again, the officer had reason to draw his weapon. He did not have reason to fire.

The cop breaks down in tears at the end apologizing over and over.

Thus demonstrating that he knew he fucked up, and knew he should not have fired.

It's likely he might be so traumatized by accidentally shooting an innocent citizen that he may never go back to his job.

Good. He can't be trusted with the job.

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Dashcam Footage Released of 70 Year Old Man Shot over Expired License Plate [View all] damnedifIknow Mar 2014 OP

I'd use the phrase "killer cops," but that would be redundant. villager Mar 2014 #1

Bonnie and Clyde damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #2

At the risk of sounding trite defacto7 Mar 2014 #3

The basics are to project force and to kill TransitJohn Mar 2014 #15

And they think we're paranoid. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Mar 2014 #4

In a society as heavily armed as ours is Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #5

I think it's sad TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #6

No excuse seveneyes Mar 2014 #7

Sorry, but the problem isn't necessarily that this police officer was a "gun happy idiot" justiceischeap Mar 2014 #11

Us old farts might be deaf, and need a cane, and be used to facing people they talk to. bemildred Mar 2014 #17

Do you know anyone that would leave a gun in the back of their pick up? Bandit Mar 2014 #21

^^^^^^ What you just said. Bohunk68 Mar 2014 #66

Still, no excuse seveneyes Mar 2014 #24

It's oh so easy pipi_k Mar 2014 #46

Never assume seveneyes Mar 2014 #53

Again... pipi_k Mar 2014 #57

Unrelated to this situation seveneyes Mar 2014 #58

Maybe pipi_k Mar 2014 #63

Hundreds of millions? WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #88

Yes, to maybe put a stop to hiring paranoid freaks as cops seveneyes Mar 2014 #90

I can appreciate the sentiment... WatermelonRat Mar 2014 #92

That's just how I see it too. sammythecat Mar 2014 #8

The cop?? really? nt Logical Mar 2014 #14

I don't give a FUCK how "upset" or "distraught" he is hatrack Mar 2014 #12

Please watch this video and tell when you, as the officer in this scenario, pull your weapon KurtNYC Mar 2014 #20

The moment he got out of the car seveneyes Mar 2014 #26

Excuse me, but no, FAIL hatrack Mar 2014 #64

this video has nothing to do with the case being discussed. #fail TeamPooka Mar 2014 #70

Except for the fact that it is dashcam footage, of a person getting out of their car, KurtNYC Mar 2014 #82

I don't see him as a victim TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #23

Don't you think he should have made damn sure damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #25

oh, so now cops should do nothing until someone aims a gun at them TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #40

First of all damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #54

ROE DustyJoe Mar 2014 #61

Evidently some here don't care to hold cops accountable for their actions. Rex Mar 2014 #42

Actually pipi_k Mar 2014 #48

why would you expect that? frylock Mar 2014 #71

No you're not the only one damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #75

Same here. n/t Mugu Mar 2014 #76

There are good, and trained cops seveneyes Mar 2014 #27

'Upset' and 'distraught' pretty much refutes the idea that he simply wanted to kill someone. randome Mar 2014 #32

Why did the man get out of his truck? blueamy66 Mar 2014 #13

Deaf, perhaps? nt bemildred Mar 2014 #18

Yeah, I don't know. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #19

Yeah, I avoid that too. It's one reason I don't watch TV. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #22

I don't think so... pipi_k Mar 2014 #49

That can happen when you are deaf. bemildred Mar 2014 #51

Maybe... pipi_k Mar 2014 #59

I'm deaf in one ear, I kind of like it, it cuts down the noise level. bemildred Mar 2014 #60

Years ago, in some places at least Mariana Mar 2014 #29

Whatever the reason...this whole thing sucks blueamy66 Mar 2014 #31

I feel for the man in in this video damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #33

Come on. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #36

He's a cop damnedifIknow Mar 2014 #45

There was a reason. You saw the video. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #47

No, there wasn't. jeff47 Mar 2014 #78

Don't agree. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #83

Yes, he does have to wait. jeff47 Mar 2014 #85

I agree. Mugu Mar 2014 #74

I've never known a single person that owned a rifle and kept it in the back\bed of their truck. Rex Mar 2014 #39

And I've never pipi_k Mar 2014 #50

no, it really isn't.. frylock Mar 2014 #72

Watch it again and tell me where you heard any of what you posted 30cal Mar 2014 #62

"It's obvious that the officer believed it was a long barreled gun"... Are you serious?? WHO the Ghost in the Machine Mar 2014 #81

Gun mentality in this country has ruined the lives of so many. Law enforcement is more fearful, kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #9

That sums everything up very well! randome Mar 2014 #37

Spot on blueamy66 Mar 2014 #38

You said it! Rex Mar 2014 #41

That should be an OP. reflection Mar 2014 #68

The image of Barney comes to mind. . B Calm Mar 2014 #10

Jeezus, even in the blurred video I could see that was a cane! theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #28

I bet the cop really "saw" a gun. Mariana Mar 2014 #30

+1. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #34

I would say pipi_k Mar 2014 #43

Second guessers... pipi_k Mar 2014 #35

Nope. jeff47 Mar 2014 #79

What a load of crap! nt Logical Mar 2014 #86

Poor fucking cop, can't go back to work. He should go to prison for murder. eom TransitJohn Mar 2014 #93

Funny how cop apologists hold the man responsible for his actions Rex Mar 2014 #44

Nobody is pipi_k Mar 2014 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author uncle ray Mar 2014 #65

Everyone in this thread asking why he got out of the truck. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2014 #80

Is that not a valid question. blueamy66 Mar 2014 #89

Who has ever seen UncleYoder Mar 2014 #55

I can not say what I want to say PowerToThePeople Mar 2014 #56

Everyone should look at this marions ghost Mar 2014 #67

Any time I'm pulled over I assume my life is at risk. GliderGuider Mar 2014 #69

i don't remove my hands from the wheel until the officer is at my window.. frylock Mar 2014 #73

It is because there is NO DOWNSIDE to cops killing you. No punishment! n-t Logical Mar 2014 #87

Whether there is or not won't matter much to me if I'm dead. GliderGuider Mar 2014 #94

This. 100% this. geomon666 Mar 2014 #95

Now you know why cops want you to stay in your car with your hands visible at all times WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2014 #77

Another cowardly cop incident. Vattel Mar 2014 #84

Fear of Soverign Citizen? One_Life_To_Give Mar 2014 #91