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20. You know, I'm frustrated! I'm just at complete odds with a U.S. Constitution that just doesn't

Sat Mar 24, 2012, 06:18 PM

Mar 2012

seem to work for the people. I'm fed up with hearing about how great our Constitution is. It is not and the article that I cite from the NYT shows that.

I see countries like Liberia, Rwanda and Chile being led out of their near total collapse by WOMEN because the corruption and violence killed their people, and I wonder could this happen here? And why does it have to get to that point in the first place?

Time and again I have seen one step forward and two steps back for progress here in the U.S. You name it, union rights, women's rights, civil rights for minorities, it's gotten very bad out there.

I hope someone brighter than me can come up with a remedy. But when even SCOTUS justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg says if she were designing a new Constitution today she wouldn't recommend OURS, I say something is really wrong!

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Did the Founders Hate Government? [View all] matmar Mar 2012 OP

The Founders did not hate government. HubertHeaver Mar 2012 #1

Can we stop with making the U.S. Constitution a sacramental doctrine? CTyankee Mar 2012 #2

NO !!! - And, Yes... WillyT Mar 2012 #11

I don't want to get into a long rant on this except to say that what you are saying strikes CTyankee Mar 2012 #17

You Make Great Points... But I Don't See A Solution Here... WillyT Mar 2012 #19

You know, I'm frustrated! I'm just at complete odds with a U.S. Constitution that just doesn't CTyankee Mar 2012 #20

Yep, your frustration is pretty clear malthaussen Mar 2012 #22

Mal, we do not "know it all." That has been our problem all along. We think we "got it right," CTyankee Mar 2012 #23

Also means "to bring out of shadow," malthaussen Mar 2012 #26

Very good analysis. I would like to know more from Con Law experts who I admire and respect, CTyankee Mar 2012 #27

Sounds good to me malthaussen Mar 2012 #28

glad you looked it up. I'm going to do so this afternoon. But I had a question for you. CTyankee Mar 2012 #29

Wasn't claiming "fatal" ambiguities malthaussen Mar 2012 #34

You make a point about "discrimination" and I would wonder further about what Justice Ginsburg CTyankee Mar 2012 #35

The idea of a constitutional convention in this day and age would be terrifying Posteritatis Mar 2012 #30

some of us would say we don't like living under the current "result" of our current Constitution. CTyankee Mar 2012 #32

They hated their ultra-conservative Monarchy "govt", but chose to love Democracy. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #3

Then why didn't they make us a Democracy? Ter Mar 2012 #6

They hated democracy mackattack Mar 2012 #7

You're applying todays standards of democracy to the idea of democracy over 200 years ago. FarLeftFist Mar 2012 #12

No, Im not mackattack Mar 2012 #13

Well, true only to the extent that Madison and others did not like Greek style direct democracy. CTyankee Mar 2012 #18

The founders did not hate government but they did distrust it. former9thward Mar 2012 #4

It baffles me that people have so much trouble with the distinction you just noted Posteritatis Mar 2012 #31

Wow....no mackattack Mar 2012 #5

Hard to imagine Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #8

They would have asked "What's a bathtub?" malthaussen Mar 2012 #14

Yep, they did/do. Just finished CARO's LBJ bio: Senate is a BLOCKAGE (kill PROGRESS) n/t UTUSN Mar 2012 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Herlong Mar 2012 #10

Which Founders? malthaussen Mar 2012 #15

If America today tried to form a United States chnoutte Mar 2012 #16

Not sure the FFs would even recognize a multicultural society such as the U.S. CTyankee Mar 2012 #25

Hamilton, Washington, & Madison built an activist federal government Bucky Mar 2012 #21

Apparently they hated government so much Shankapotomus Mar 2012 #24

Clearly not. They did have a clear suspicion of concentration of power that TheKentuckian Mar 2012 #33