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Mariana

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67. Keeping them illegal also kills people.

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 11:53 AM

Mar 2014

A lot of the deaths that have happened wouldn't have if the drugs were available in standard dosages and weren't cut with poisons or combined with other powerful drugs. There would still be some, of course. Hundreds of people die every year from Tylenol overdose, after all. There will always be some who go too far.

I understand what you're saying, though.

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10 famous geniuses and their drugs of choice [View all] xchrom Mar 2014 OP

LSD was quite popular among them. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #1

That's Robin William's line, too much money.... Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #3

One's first acid trip is a rocket ride straight to the "God-Head." another_liberal Mar 2014 #5

It's magical. It's amazing the places your mind can go. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #8

So tell us what 'hidden knowledge' you accessed. Why keep it to yourself? randome Mar 2014 #10

It's personal and spiritual knowledge about my relation to the Cosmos, LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #12

LOL! Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #58

+1, n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #76

If you have to ask . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #25

You might be surprised at what I can understand. randome Mar 2014 #27

Granted that. another_liberal Mar 2014 #30

I learned to forgive Schema Thing Mar 2014 #31

Other than the 'forgive' part, doesn't it bother you that none of those things are true? randome Mar 2014 #35

Why should that bother me? Schema Thing Mar 2014 #39

Yeah, I guess I was conflating LSD with 'all' drugs. Bad on me. randome Mar 2014 #41

Sounds are colors . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #47

There is a reason for that. Mojo Electro Mar 2014 #55

Yes, a kind of magic does seem to be at work. another_liberal Mar 2014 #26

Everything is magic. bemildred Mar 2014 #42

"Magic" means different things to different people. another_liberal Mar 2014 #45

I like Clarke's definition. bemildred Mar 2014 #64

That was not my experience. yardwork Mar 2014 #14

That was bad acid. I haven't done it in a while, but when I do, I get it from LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #18

Entirely possible. This was a very long time ago. yardwork Mar 2014 #21

That was very weak LSD . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #19

My Experience RobinA Mar 2014 #97

DMT is the rocker ride Bonobo Mar 2014 #44

I'll have to take your word for it . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #46

DMT is a 12 hour acid trip in 45 minutes. hobbit709 Mar 2014 #84

Ha ha , never did peyote but that is true of shrooms for sure. Bonobo Mar 2014 #86

Drank a wad of 'shrooms in OJ (to hold down the stink)... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #90

The unstated implication is that.... Helen Borg Mar 2014 #2

I think it's more like genius is not incompatible with using drugs. bemildred Mar 2014 #6

Chocolate cream pie is not bad for everyone. Should we encourage it? randome Mar 2014 #9

Maybe we should just butt out of such questions? bemildred Mar 2014 #11

I have no problem whatsoever with expanding treatment centers. randome Mar 2014 #17

Not everyone requires any treatment at all. There are plentiful laws to deal with a person TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #29

I hear you but by the time someone is 'breaking the peace', it often is too late. randome Mar 2014 #32

as opposed to massive amounts of dead bodies and ruined lives. Schema Thing Mar 2014 #40

What do you think we have now? Mariana Mar 2014 #49

My daughters are too smart to use drugs. randome Mar 2014 #51

When I was a teen Mariana Mar 2014 #54

I'm sure that's different depending on city, region, school district, etc. randome Mar 2014 #60

Keeping them illegal also kills people. Mariana Mar 2014 #67

The proactive path has piled up tons of dead bodies and ruined lives while turning TheKentuckian Mar 2014 #91

Sorry, I did no such thing. Society was put into its current incarnation without my input. randome Mar 2014 #94

do you know this from personal experience? hobbit709 Mar 2014 #85

No, I don't know from personal experience. randome Mar 2014 #87

there are two kinds of people who pray the loudest in church. hobbit709 Mar 2014 #88

Yet there is that list that cannot be refuted. randome Mar 2014 #89

Right. And the idea that one must take drugs to be creative causes a lot of damage. yardwork Mar 2014 #16

Yeah, that's stupid. Drink destroyed a lot of people, still does. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #23

Would the world be a better place Mariana Mar 2014 #52

Francis Crick, who envisioned the structure of DNA RainDog Mar 2014 #77

But it doesn't matter what Francis Crick thought Helen Borg Mar 2014 #83

It matters more what he thinks RainDog Mar 2014 #93

I Imagine you could find a list of famous killers and their favorite drugs, too. 7962 Mar 2014 #4

Liquor is responsible for a lot of violence. And meth. Cocaine too. bemildred Mar 2014 #7

interesting... paleotn Mar 2014 #13

Yes. Genius at marketing is what both of those were. nt bemildred Mar 2014 #15

And Jobs wasn't such a 'genius' when it came time to deal with his illness, was he? randome Mar 2014 #22

What is that supposed to mean? 1000words Mar 2014 #74

He deliberately opted for substitute procedures that didn't make sense. randome Mar 2014 #79

Genius or not, it shows he was human. 1000words Mar 2014 #81

"Genius" RobinA Mar 2014 #98

K&R DeSwiss Mar 2014 #20

That about sums it up. LuvNewcastle Mar 2014 #28

Never saw it put in these exact words.. excellent! mountain grammy Mar 2014 #37

That is the best description Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #61

Sherlock homes used cocaine regularly if you read the original mucifer Mar 2014 #23

I thought it was opium? Or was it both? nt stevenleser Mar 2014 #34

Cocaine. The "7% solution". bemildred Mar 2014 #36

He used morphine, too. Mariana Mar 2014 #50

He tried it. Opiates are not attractive to healthy nerds, they make you stupid. Stimulants can be. bemildred Mar 2014 #53

Opiates have the opposite effect on me Mariana Mar 2014 #59

I've seen that with Tramadol, used for pain and cough, really surprised me. bemildred Mar 2014 #62

Holmes is fictional, of course, but in the books he uses cocaine regularly Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #56

well, it only goes to show the benefit of doing the drugs stupidicus Mar 2014 #33

Sagan was a wimp! malthaussen Mar 2014 #38

presumably he started taking it after the suggested nuking the Moon MisterP Mar 2014 #70

It looks like I didn't use enough LSD back in the early 70s LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #43

Yummy...A Delicious Topic To Accompany My Morning Eggs and Ham.... bkanderson76 Mar 2014 #48

Carl Sagan's essay on marijuana is brilliant. PoliticalPothead Mar 2014 #57

Great essay! Thanks for posting it. nt SalviaBlue Mar 2014 #68

And here is a much more extensive list of famous people destroyed by drugs. randome Mar 2014 #63

I quickly scanned the list. Maybe too quick because I missed all the LSD and retread Mar 2014 #72

Eh. Push comes to shove, I can accept LSD and marijuana. randome Mar 2014 #73

I saw 6 references to LSD and 2 each for marijuana, ketamine, and cocaine and 1 for amphetamine. retread Mar 2014 #92

Therapists have used LSD to help the dying RainDog Mar 2014 #95

Bush enid602 Mar 2014 #65

I think his problems might extend from a micro-meteorite piercing his brain. randome Mar 2014 #66

I should get a drug of choice. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #69

But wait! The Midway Rebel Mar 2014 #71

Two Notable Women Excluded RainDog Mar 2014 #75

Edgar Allen Poe Aerows Mar 2014 #78

What--no chocolate? Demeter Mar 2014 #80

William S. Burroughs - Heroin kentauros Mar 2014 #82

Samuel Taylor Coleridge---opium and "Kubla Khan." WinkyDink Mar 2014 #96