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TorchTheWitch

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120. The 777 is capable of cruising at altitudes up to 43,100 feet

Reply to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #93)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 05:50 PM

Mar 2014

That's from here...
http://www.boeing.com/boeing/commercial/777family/pf/pf_facts.page

And then there's this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/missing-flight-hijacked-2014-3
"An aircraft which was believed but not confirmed to be MH370 did indeed turn back," Razak told reporters. "It then flew in a westerly direction back over Peninsular Malaysia before turning northwest. Up until the point at which it left military primary radar coverage, these movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane."

As a number of commercial pilots told NPR's "All Things Considered" on Friday, with the exception of the transponder, which can be shut off at the flick of a switch, other onboard tracking systems are not as easy to disable.

"They said you'd have to go through big checklists, you'd have to possibly pull circuit breakers if you wanted to deactivate [all the communications equipment]," NPR's Geoff Brumfiel said, citing interviews with pilots. "So, to do this, you'd have to have some degree of premeditation and a lot of knowledge of the aircraft."

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Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane Hijacked, Official Confirms [View all] morningfog Mar 2014 OP

Now the questions really start. By whom? Why? Are the passengers still alive? And of course, morningfog Mar 2014 #1

And if they are alive, who goes to get them? Renew Deal Mar 2014 #2

This is all absolutely surreal. morningfog Mar 2014 #3

This truly is surreal. Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #7

Weirdest thing I've seen in a while Aerows Mar 2014 #38

Dust off the Israelis' old Entebbe plan. MADem Mar 2014 #4

Totally just my opinion...did the hijackers plant witnesses? rainbow4321 Mar 2014 #77

Could be...or it could be "helpful" people who just want to be a part of history... MADem Mar 2014 #78

My biggest question Aerows Mar 2014 #36

Really? Take a wild guess. maced666 Mar 2014 #70

How about you give me your wild answer, because I have none. morningfog Mar 2014 #115

Link to AP: morningfog Mar 2014 #5

? Adam051188 Mar 2014 #6

Are you Malaysian? Chan790 Mar 2014 #14

If the U.S. knows where that plane is, Keefer Mar 2014 #49

Maintaining appearances? Chan790 Mar 2014 #56

I don't know why everybody thinks satellites can see everything. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #62

it's all part of the charade. they're giving hints along the lines of "you're getting warmer" functioning_cog Mar 2014 #67

Amazing, isn't it? Every time they could actually prove their claims of how this whole meta data sabrina 1 Mar 2014 #26

On the contrary, its the corporations you buy from who know your shopping kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #87

really? JeaneRaye Mar 2014 #61

it's a play on a word Skittles Mar 2014 #80

For once, when worst since 911 crosses somebody's lips nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #8

Skill and planning. It is about to get intense. morningfog Mar 2014 #11

Yup nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #12

At least we learned that after all the security checks go west young man Mar 2014 #30

That was not TSA nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #31

The US has applied rules to most European countries go west young man Mar 2014 #39

Yes, but malasya is not in Europe. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #42

You may be missing my point Nadine.. go west young man Mar 2014 #48

I am not missing your point nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #52

Actually, US TSA runs 250 million checks against the Interpol database every year, pnwmom Mar 2014 #91

From the Washington Post link. go west young man Mar 2014 #98

Our TSA/Customs is one of the national organizations that have been using the database. pnwmom Mar 2014 #101

I'm not sure that's accurate Renew Deal Mar 2014 #63

Here we go again. We hate when the government tracks us except we hate when they don't nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #88

The article was referring to airlines checking, not governmental entities like the TSA. pnwmom Mar 2014 #90

Oh and I don't know about that. nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #47

The US doesn't check every traveler in the whole world, that's why. pnwmom Mar 2014 #89

Here's where your misunderstanding is coming from, I think. pnwmom Mar 2014 #92

What? The Dog and Pony show has been shown to be...................... tavalon Mar 2014 #74

(self-delete) pnwmom Mar 2014 #84

Wrong. The US uses the Interpol database more than any other country in the world. pnwmom Mar 2014 #85

Wrong, if you fly international you know that nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #105

US airport security run 250 million checks against the Interpol database annually, pnwmom Mar 2014 #83

do we have a translator here? snooper2 Mar 2014 #110

Satellites are very good at seeing what they are directly looking at. If they are not directly looki uppityperson Mar 2014 #117

Yes, it is "surreal".. :( Cha Mar 2014 #9

A lot of mixed emotion right now. Hope that the passengers are alive, dread about what the morningfog Mar 2014 #16

Few reporting this. nt Logical Mar 2014 #10

AP has it and it has been picked up by LA Times, WaPo, CBSNews.... morningfog Mar 2014 #13

They've just broken into the 20/20 program on ABC to report it... countryjake Mar 2014 #44

The Guardian has it... countryjake Mar 2014 #54

I hope this isn't true. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #15

I'm thinking the families wold rather have live hostages than fish food for relatives. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #22

Yeah, like Hope is still alive. Cha Mar 2014 #23

I just hope the passengers weren't tortured to death. nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #35

is this official? annoynomous source? mackerel Mar 2014 #17

It is an anonymous official, as of now. But, it is consistent with everything we've heard morningfog Mar 2014 #20

Malaysian Prime Minister is going to make a statement shortly. morningfog Mar 2014 #18

And I know it's FCN but, the video with flight path nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #19

FWIW the Malaysian prime minister is supposed to give an update at 1:30 AM ET herding cats Mar 2014 #21

All of us would like a "happy" ending to this story. mn9driver Mar 2014 #24

I don't disagree that the odds are bad. However, morningfog Mar 2014 #28

True mn9driver Mar 2014 #46

Until we get a better idea who may have done this fujiyama Mar 2014 #25

I think that is what is bringing the statement now. Other countires (namely US) are more heavily morningfog Mar 2014 #27

I just noticed the PM is giving a presser fujiyama Mar 2014 #29

Saying: ''It is conclusive.'' DeSwiss Mar 2014 #32

I wonder if there is something more to the conclusion. morningfog Mar 2014 #33

My point is one of semantics, maybe...... DeSwiss Mar 2014 #43

There is this live update from Telegraph: morningfog Mar 2014 #37

That makes sense. n/t DeSwiss Mar 2014 #45

I think everyone is sharing what they know more now. herding cats Mar 2014 #58

True. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #53

Well that answers one question, but not the biggest one Aerows Mar 2014 #34

unfortunately probably on the bottom of the indian ocean. DCBob Mar 2014 #40

I hope not Aerows Mar 2014 #41

All those folks would need to be fed.. HipChick Mar 2014 #51

if its in the bottom of the ocean they are all dead. DCBob Mar 2014 #59

There was another mention on cable this evening - a report out of China Samantha Mar 2014 #55

That was 140 miles EAST of where the plane turned off communications Renew Deal Mar 2014 #64

Since it appears more likely it was hijacked herding cats Mar 2014 #50

Weird, weird, weird Aerows Mar 2014 #66

You've pretty much got it right. herding cats Mar 2014 #69

I feel sorry for the loved ones Aerows Mar 2014 #75

I keep putting myself in their place. herding cats Mar 2014 #76

Are these the same government officials that invited the shaman to the airport, where he performed jtuck004 Mar 2014 #57

Sydney Morning Herald says that Malaysian PM Najib Razak... countryjake Mar 2014 #60

It appears the 'how' has been answered. Jenoch Mar 2014 #65

Al Jazeera will televise the Malaysia PM's news conference amandabeech Mar 2014 #68

It's Live Streaming online at ABCnews and Livestation, too countryjake Mar 2014 #72

Honestly that has been my thought since this began azurnoir Mar 2014 #71

Just as I suspected. I posted saying it was probably a hijacking on Tuesday quinnox Mar 2014 #73

I agreed. Now remind me again B2G Mar 2014 #97

Me too Iwasthere Mar 2014 #111

My guess IDemo Mar 2014 #79

'unmistakable'? I don't think so muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #82

The 40,000 ft figure was from engine data which may not have been accurate IDemo Mar 2014 #86

Many pilots are posting on pilots' forums that they don't think a 777 can reach 45,000 feet muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #93

The 777 is capable of cruising at altitudes up to 43,100 feet TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #120

Not necessarily. They might have been trying to avoid radar detection. pnwmom Mar 2014 #103

Avoiding whose radar? IDemo Mar 2014 #104

Then why couldn't they track the plane? Why do they still have no idea pnwmom Mar 2014 #106

The radar has limited range IDemo Mar 2014 #107

Unless they were taking it to high altitude for a reason Iwasthere Mar 2014 #112

Yep. That's it exactly. B2G Mar 2014 #122

Missing jet: Piracy would require special skills dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #81

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I can't imagine such a sophisticated plan not having a landing plan. morningfog Mar 2014 #95

I don't disagree at all. ok_cpu Mar 2014 #96

They took the plane to use for some other purpose later distantearlywarning Mar 2014 #99

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Terror in the sky: MH370 deliberately diverted by an experienced pilot FarCenter Mar 2014 #100

WHy not just crash it? morningfog Mar 2014 #109

A crash would just be a crash. This will be a mystery and enduring legend. FarCenter Mar 2014 #113

Silly me, I'm still holding out hope that the people are alive somewhere. Zorra Mar 2014 #102

pissing everybody off... "China demands Malaysia give more accurate information on plane" Baclava Mar 2014 #108

wasnt it china that dropped those bogus sat photos on us a few days ago?? DCBob Mar 2014 #116

They aren't running the operation and two-thirds of those on-board were Chinese. Baclava Mar 2014 #118

sure.. but they themselves sent many on a wild goose chase with those photos. DCBob Mar 2014 #119

This story gets weirder by the minute. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #121

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