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In reply to the discussion: If we die, we're taking you with us. [View all]caraher
(6,362 posts)14. Probably not an Einstein quote
Apparently the version of this apocryphal quote with the 4-year deadline first appeared in a beekeepers' magazine in 1965. Snopes says the veracity is undetermined.
While I think we have to stop all the things we're doing that kill off bees, the human extinction claim is overblown:
Let us remember that there were no honey bees in this continent a few hundred years ago. Native Americans ate a healthy diet which included squash and beans, sunflower seeds, chestnuts and a variety of berries, all of them pollinated by native bees. More recently, small farms and vegetable gardens still could obtain enough pollination services without managed bee hives.
Present day farming or agribusiness, with its enormous monoculture fields, requires managed pollinators: hives with large numbers of workers that can be trucked long distances and moved from crop to crop as the seasons progress.
If all honey bees disappeared, it would be catastrophic for agriculture, as we know it, and we would certainly suffer grievously, but we would survive. Nevertheless, over time, other pollinators could, and would, take over all the tasks that the Jack-of-all-trades performs today. This would require profound changes in agriculture to meet these pollinators needs such as nesting habitat, diversity of crops, protection from pesticides and more. Fortunately, several groups of pollination experts are already exploring this issue and coming with alternatives.
Present day farming or agribusiness, with its enormous monoculture fields, requires managed pollinators: hives with large numbers of workers that can be trucked long distances and moved from crop to crop as the seasons progress.
If all honey bees disappeared, it would be catastrophic for agriculture, as we know it, and we would certainly suffer grievously, but we would survive. Nevertheless, over time, other pollinators could, and would, take over all the tasks that the Jack-of-all-trades performs today. This would require profound changes in agriculture to meet these pollinators needs such as nesting habitat, diversity of crops, protection from pesticides and more. Fortunately, several groups of pollination experts are already exploring this issue and coming with alternatives.
I find that view excessively pollyannaish; losing honey bees would be a catastrophe. But the effect would fall well short of killing off all people.
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Don't worry, Scuba. Scientists will shout out and our Statesmen will hear them...
Octafish
Mar 2014
#2
Agreed...And To Be Witnessing The Creature Now In Such Distress Is Alarming
bkanderson76
Mar 2014
#7
Apparently there's no proof that Einstein said this, but that doesn't make it any less true.
Scuba
Mar 2014
#11
The only authority in the quote is Einstein's name. Without that, it could be total bullshit.
Gravitycollapse
Mar 2014
#55
+1 yes go local only the honey. It's US packers that are mixing/ using the Chinese honey
lunasun
Mar 2014
#47
That was meant as a "catchall" phrase for factory "food" .... but this is DU
KentuckyWoman
Mar 2014
#37