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MuseRider

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69. I was born and raised in Topeka and know the family.
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 12:44 PM
Mar 2014

I went all through school with Fred Jr., even part of university and know his wife as well.

They have been doing this kind of stuff since the kids were in grade school, it just went from one thing to the other until they stopped getting attention then they moved to something else outrageous.

It is Shirley Phelps Roper, she is a daughter not a daughter in law. I don't know what she will do because I don't know if the rest of the clan will follow her.

They work throughout the community, always have. The have at least one law firm. They work in our corrections department, they have in the past and may still work with family services. They are out and about all the time as citizens. Their kids attend public school.

They do get donations but they have also sued a whole lot of people and towns and won. They have sucked a lot from Topeka over the years as the city actually tried to stop them but got sued for their attempts. They do get donations. They all work.

I hope beyond anything that they fall apart after his death. I always thought he was terrifying as a kid. Now I know what was going on there and he was terrifying. His family was brutalized beyond anything most of us will ever know. I hope after his death that they come out from under the fear and try to at least live lives that do not destroy others. Shirley is a tiny little woman, I can't imagine she will wield as much terror as the old man did. All this is speculation.

As happy as I am to say I no longer live in Topeka I live close enough to see these creeps every time I go to town, every time I play a concert or attend something like that. I have spent a lifetime afraid of these people because of how they have hurt friends and family, I have spent a lifetime hating every one of them in spite of trying not to actually work up a good hate.

I just want them gone and quiet.

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This seems to be the real thing. MuseRider Mar 2014 #1
It will be a very good thing for Kansas! He brought so much negativity onto Kansas. Hopefully RKP5637 Mar 2014 #59
I don't think the church will fade away soon wercal Mar 2014 #63
I was born and raised in Topeka and know the family. MuseRider Mar 2014 #69
They are a pox on society and I will dance every time one dies. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #82
I am not much of a grave dancer BUT MuseRider Mar 2014 #86
Sadly, yes, I think you are quite correct. Thanks for your summary. It is chilling such RKP5637 Mar 2014 #103
I stand corrected on Shirley Phelps wercal Mar 2014 #104
Thanks for the update! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #105
We're kind of on 'Phelps Death Watch' here in Topeka...so I keep checking the news. wercal Mar 2014 #106
Agree. Heidi Mar 2014 #93
I have nothing nice to say. Behind the Aegis Mar 2014 #2
I always felt that way about Jerry Foulmouth. Bohunk68 Mar 2014 #10
I'd pour Roundup all over his grave just to make sure a single blade of grass never grew. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #32
Roundup only lasts a year or so jmowreader Mar 2014 #92
Well said!! newfie11 Mar 2014 #22
Fred is a bigot, but as far as I know not racist. wercal Mar 2014 #60
Agree... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #66
I have something nice to say: It couldn't happen to a nicer guy. n/t RebelOne Mar 2014 #72
Good Riddance HangOnKids Mar 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author SidDithers Mar 2014 #44
why was he excommunicated ? and isn't he in charge of the church JI7 Mar 2014 #4
I imagine, in his old age, he became vulnerable to the vultures he had spawned and cultivated. (nt) Heidi Mar 2014 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Brickbat Mar 2014 #27
Shirley Phelps Roper Jamastiene Mar 2014 #78
His funeral should be interesting Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #5
Who wants to picket? redwitch Mar 2014 #31
The real story is the why and how of his ex-communication Buddha2B Mar 2014 #6
Yeah, that's what I'm wondering too. MH1 Mar 2014 #36
Heart? What heart? Nika Mar 2014 #45
Welcome to DU, Buddha2B! calimary Mar 2014 #46
I hope his funeral is peaceful. Just like the ones he helped ruin should have been, Gravitycollapse Mar 2014 #8
Amen. delta17 Mar 2014 #21
Welcome to DU, delta17! calimary Mar 2014 #47
I don't know if it really is the high ground. delta17 Mar 2014 #81
Too soon? jmowreader Mar 2014 #9
I think you read that wrong. Bohunk68 Mar 2014 #11
I didn't read it wrong jmowreader Mar 2014 #13
The part I don't get is "the church" preventing members who left or were kicked out from Thor_MN Mar 2014 #15
I had to read it 2 or 3 times littlewolf Mar 2014 #18
I wondered that also but with the kind of bull they teach just getting sick was enough to condemn jwirr Mar 2014 #24
Pardon the irreverence here, but your comment just about made me spit my tea all over my screen! calimary Mar 2014 #50
K & R for visibility! LeftofObama Mar 2014 #12
How can the church block visitation to someone they excommunicated? eShirl Mar 2014 #14
it's not even a church, onethatcares Mar 2014 #17
that sounds like a church. eShirl Mar 2014 #20
Yep, that's what many have become, hate clubs for hate fests with cult behavior. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #28
If he's hospitalized, most likely one of the remaining church members has power of attorney. jeff47 Mar 2014 #61
It looks like Fred found out what happens when you feed people a steady diet of hate. herding cats Mar 2014 #16
i can't Pass the Peace in this case -- that would make me a liar. nt xchrom Mar 2014 #19
If true it sound to me like the fight over the estate has already begun before he is dead. Greed jwirr Mar 2014 #23
Can't say as I hate to see this bigot go madokie Mar 2014 #25
Don't forget to flush the toilet! Sorry, I have no sympathy for some scum! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #26
So maybe now, what is left of his twisted family will evaporate too...they will Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #29
I wonder if this "Church" qualifies for tax free income? Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #35
I found this: Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #37
It's a big, hate-filled scam sweetloukillbot Mar 2014 #38
Is that true? They have sued people? Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #53
They've sued many people. It's how the members of the church make their living. jeff47 Mar 2014 #62
Is his family going to picket his funeral? jsr Mar 2014 #30
PERFECT! WinkyDink Mar 2014 #49
Good. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #33
Since old Fred learned no lessons this go 'round, kaiden Mar 2014 #34
I would imagine the "church" is trying to keep non-church members flvegan Mar 2014 #39
My mom always said if you have nothing kind to say about someone, uncommonlink Mar 2014 #40
Your mom never knew Fred Phelps jmowreader Mar 2014 #94
Sadly, I do not believe there is reward or punishment after death. MineralMan Mar 2014 #41
Phelps' death is a reward to the living. I'll dance like Michael Jackson on that grave. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #42
The best is he will be away from the living. To me, death is death, one gets one chance in life, and RKP5637 Mar 2014 #58
I hope that he is in *excruciating* pain for a long time. PeaceNikki Mar 2014 #43
Can't happen soon enough. WinkyDink Mar 2014 #48
Some people in life are just evil F's and I say good riddance to them. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #57
Is it wrong that I'm smiling? LiberalElite Mar 2014 #51
Nope, I don't think so, I'm LMAO and smiling! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #56
I know this probably won't happen... Hell, I'm not sure I could do it TlalocW Mar 2014 #52
"Any man's death diminishes me" Paladin Mar 2014 #54
Massive picketing of his funeral? Crunchy Frog Mar 2014 #55
Apropos! Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #65
I'm not a grave dancer, and got my ass kicked when I asked for decorum... Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #64
But his legacy of hate will live on. nt WhiteTara Mar 2014 #67
Good. Iggo Mar 2014 #68
"I did not attend his funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it." -Mark Twain LeftyMom Mar 2014 #70
+1. (nt) Paladin Mar 2014 #77
I want to cheer and clap Tree-Hugger Mar 2014 #71
"If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; Zorra Mar 2014 #73
+1000 LongTomH Mar 2014 #83
My attitude towards the WBC can be summed up in one phrase: Rocknrule Mar 2014 #74
Rest in piss, Freddy. (And you will be if I ever make it to your grave site.) 11 Bravo Mar 2014 #75
I hope he gets a nice tanning bed in Hell shenmue Mar 2014 #76
He was ex-communicated from his own church? maddezmom Mar 2014 #79
I think we should mourn for a life wasted in hatred! LongTomH Mar 2014 #80
You know, I feel for the son nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #84
I wonder if his church will protest his funeral nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #85
K & R tea and oranges Mar 2014 #87
He's in for a terrible surprise. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #88
when i first saw the OP onethatcares Mar 2014 #89
Kick! Heidi Mar 2014 #90
Say a prayer for him. Octafish Mar 2014 #91
Death is not an end Ichingcarpenter Mar 2014 #95
Fred is about to find out MFM008 Mar 2014 #96
May his passing be easy Gothmog Mar 2014 #97
hate group of the century Liberal_in_LA Mar 2014 #99
As the father of a LGBT daughter, I have issues with group Gothmog Mar 2014 #100
My give a shit meter is now broken Aerows Mar 2014 #98
Why Phelp yourself, Fred Blue Owl Mar 2014 #101
If I were the believing sort, I'd have something to say when he finally passes: backscatter712 Mar 2014 #102
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