General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: If we die, we're taking you with us. [View all]Android3.14
(5,402 posts)He probably did not say anything like this.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/einstein/bees.asp
However, someone upthread responded that even if Einstein didn't say it, it doesn't make it any less true.
I see the issue in two parts. If someone attributes a quote, whether the content of the quote is true or not, to a famous person in order to give it greater validity, does this harm or hurt the cause for which the person posted the "quote". For example, if I published that Obama said, "If we don't stop Russia in the Ukraine, then there will be a nuclear war." Does this advance the agenda of stopping Russia? Perhaps for the brief few moments while the gullible once again tear their shirts. But then those who are capable of critical thinking arrive, or those who don't want to have anything to do with Russia arrive, point out that Obama said nothing of the sort, and that people are making wild accusations are unstrustworthy, and we should therefore ignore what they have to say in the future because they are either liars, idiots, or both.
The second aspect is this. Is the statement true? If bees were to all disappear today, would all humans be dead in less than four years?
I think not.
http://www.unep.org/dewa/Portals/67/pdf/Global_Bee_Colony_Disorder_and_Threats_insect_pollinators.pdf
According to a 2010 report, the decline of honey bees may be an extinction level event. But even if bees disappeared suddenly, it seems that the eradication of people on the planet would probably take hundreds of years to thousands of years rather four or fewer years. And that's if we all sat around with our thumbs up our asses. Pollinating plants is something that occurs through many vectors, and people can even do it by hand. Additionally, bees pollinate 70 of the 100 plants that provide 90% of our food. This is a simple math problem to estimate indicating that if we did nothing, we would see a 63% decline in available food, which would certainly lead to massive starvation, but would fairly quickly result in a smaller population of humans rather than the extinction.
Certainly there are big problems with bees, but wild-eyed proclamations of the impending death of humans as an entire species are unhelpful at best.
It is unfortunate that people spread this sort of ignorance.