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153. By threatening nuclear war with China

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 08:46 AM

Mar 2014

In late 1952 Eisenhower went to Korea and discovered a military and political stalemate. Once in office, when the Chinese began a buildup in the Kaesong sanctuary, he threatened to use nuclear force if an armistice was not concluded. His earlier military reputation in Europe was effective with the Chinese.[147] The National Security Council, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Strategic Air Command (SAC) devised detailed plans for nuclear war against China.[148] With the death of Stalin in early March 1953, Russian support for a Chinese hard-line weakened and China decided to compromise on the prisoner issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower#Korean_War.2C_China.2C_and_Taiwan

After his success in defeating the Germans, the Chinese were not willing to gamble that he wouldn't be willing to kill millions of them.

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Who's wreaked more international havoc lately? US or Russia? [View all] MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 OP

TBH, probably Russia at this point, especially with the shenanigans in the Ukraine. nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #1

How would you compare that to MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #3

Hmmm, that sort of negates your whole jazzimov Mar 2014 #19

Sorry, I forgot. My bad. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #20

You just nailed it, jazzimov! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #22

You set the timescale to "The last five years," Manny Scootaloo Mar 2014 #24

Eisenhower ended the Korean war in a few months. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #32

+infinity! Nt newfie11 Mar 2014 #146

By threatening nuclear war with China hack89 Mar 2014 #153

What superpower plays China's role this time? MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #154

Close call, but I would give it to Russia nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #2

Nadine!! pscot Mar 2014 #14

The Crimean region as an identity goes back to at least Kievan Rus nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #16

I wish Texas would secede, I wouldn't care if they rejoined Mexico.. :) 2banon Mar 2014 #18

Point of order... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #30

I agree T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #138

I agree with you nadin...we are a tired nation fadedrose Mar 2014 #132

The PEOPLE of the Empire are TIRED...but NOT the Empire Itself...n/t KoKo Mar 2014 #162

Unless the empire is willing to risk a nuclear exchange nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #175

LOL! ProSense Mar 2014 #4

HAHAHAHAHA Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #11

Bush invaded Iraq, ergo, Putin is justified. ProSense Mar 2014 #15

...oh and of course the OP only wants to look at the past 5 years Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #25

What happened five years ago????? *Raises Hand* msanthrope Mar 2014 #180

How about, we have no moral standing pscot Mar 2014 #27

LOL! No one ProSense Mar 2014 #34

What particular satisfaction do you derive from that? pscot Mar 2014 #47

Right ProSense Mar 2014 #52

Putin is protecting what he sees as belonging to Russia pscot Mar 2014 #85

You can't be serious. That justifies illegally invading another country? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #92

I know, you're shocked. Like Sleeping Beauty pscot Mar 2014 #112

I see, ProSense Mar 2014 #116

That's silly pscot Mar 2014 #127

What on earth are you talking about? n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #129

Thanks for the clarification. pscot Mar 2014 #131

No there is no justification of invading another country. But I guess you think it's ok if rhett o rick Mar 2014 #125

Nonsense. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #126

Condemn all day but I don't see any actions... Lost_Count Mar 2014 #149

Are you saying the UN passed a resolution? former9thward Mar 2014 #81

What? ProSense Mar 2014 #84

Did you accidentally reply to one of your posts? former9thward Mar 2014 #93

Your comment made no sense. n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #96

and hatin on the gays and whatevs arely staircase Mar 2014 #43

For us dim witted people sheshe2 Mar 2014 #35

One of us needs professional help. nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #38

I know! nt sheshe2 Mar 2014 #39

If you know, make an appointment. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #148

Cute. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #184

You don't understand Manny. zeemike Mar 2014 #89

I don't think you are helping him arely staircase Mar 2014 #115

I am not here to help him zeemike Mar 2014 #155

Yeah, because the Ukrainian fascists... JackRiddler Mar 2014 #182

lgbt = etc arely staircase Mar 2014 #45

Yes indeed. sheshe2 Mar 2014 #56

I think you should alert on the OP, for its obvious MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #61

BTW.... Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #63

Make it ten. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #66

It's just interesting Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #106

Bush stopped being President? nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #107

...and Obama became president Cali_Democrat Mar 2014 #122

lol...E for effort uponit7771 Jul 2014 #200

no I want everyone to see it arely staircase Mar 2014 #65

It'll still be viewable MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #71

oh it is viewable arely staircase Mar 2014 #74

I guess I've shown my true colors MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #75

fucking a you have arely staircase Mar 2014 #76

Nope, we will let it stand Manny! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #80

Truly, the jig is up for me. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #82

disgusting dismissal of human rights ia pretty revealing arely staircase Mar 2014 #99

Utterly. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #105

etc. arely staircase Mar 2014 #110

I love how these folks find the Puglover Mar 2014 #170

Rec PowerToThePeople Jun 2014 #196

You drive way too much traffic. joshcryer Mar 2014 #192

But writing "etc."... At some point DU's Admins need to take a stand for basic human decency. nt MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #193

Manny talks a lot! babylonsister Mar 2014 #130

Well I do have some fun responding~ sheshe2 Mar 2014 #135

manny, you are a smart guy, you deal on the shadowy edge of tactical trolling. you have mad skills. dionysus Mar 2014 #185

Not just lgbt Number23 Mar 2014 #62

nah, we are etc. nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #67

We are all etc! nt sheshe2 Mar 2014 #83

etc way etc arely staircase Mar 2014 #87

Take two etc..edrin SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #88

SunsetDreams!!! How are you?? Number23 Mar 2014 #144

Hey 23! SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #161

The perpetually outraged only cared about lgbt rights JoePhilly Mar 2014 #172

Clearly not. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #183

No, it doesn't. It separated by a comma. Hissyspit Jul 2014 #197

See post #91. Hissyspit Jul 2014 #199

Wreaked... Fumesucker Mar 2014 #5

D'oh! MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #6

Guess. blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #7

If hypocrisy were an Olympic event pscot Mar 2014 #8

I'm stuck, at least one of those countries does its havoc covertly HereSince1628 Mar 2014 #9

Benefit of the doubt. Excuses. Case in point. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #10

Because, as you know, I have trouble coming out and speaking my mind. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #13

USA has. Doesn't mean Russia is supposed to grow in size. cthulu2016 Mar 2014 #12

Here's some perspective: jazzimov Mar 2014 #17

I think the U.S. has the gold medal on this one. nt snappyturtle Mar 2014 #21

Well which one is setting up the next major European war? CFLDem Mar 2014 #23

Mars nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #26

Russia. Sorry we can't endorse Putin over Obama like you would prefer. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #28

putin rocks arely staircase Mar 2014 #29

Kremlin Way Arely! Brilliant. riqster Mar 2014 #159

What has the US done in the past five years to attract your ire? Oye. nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #31

Well I would have to say... sheshe2 Mar 2014 #50

elected and reelected Barack H. Obama as President? treestar Mar 2014 #51

Well I think you just nailed that one treestar! sheshe2 Mar 2014 #59

Winner! JoePhilly Mar 2014 #173

Elected Obama twice...nt SidDithers Mar 2014 #53

I was wondering if I was the only person that noted the OPs focus only on the last five years Number23 Mar 2014 #58

It's being noticed. That's a good thing, and thanks to you and babylonsister Mar 2014 #86

You better believe it! zappaman Mar 2014 #143

Global attitudes on the US Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #33

Very thorough and accurate answer functioning_cog Mar 2014 #42

Thanks! nt babylonsister Mar 2014 #108

Lies, damned lies and statistics. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #118

Pax Americana. joshcryer Mar 2014 #36

The War on Terror CFLDem Mar 2014 #41

I used the term ironically, just a heads up. joshcryer Mar 2014 #48

Thanks for the heads up. CFLDem Mar 2014 #54

I think it will take China to take the US down a notch. joshcryer Mar 2014 #97

... SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #37

The US. But none of it is Obamas fault. Autumn Mar 2014 #40

Russia--pretty much has Europe on edge, and props up Assad while TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #44

Everybody Knows T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #46

Over the past *5* years, you ask? Russia, hands down. Recursion Mar 2014 #49

... SidDithers Mar 2014 #55

... sheshe2 Mar 2014 #57

HAHAHAHAHA!!! greytdemocrat Mar 2014 #157

Usually we have to wait until Monday morning for one of these ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #166

This isn't a contest Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #60

You may want to edit. Re: Homs is in Syria--not Libya. functioning_cog Mar 2014 #64

Oh right, Benghazi. Sorry, brainfart Spider Jerusalem Mar 2014 #72

The US.. HipChick Mar 2014 #68

Hey, if there isn't a ruckus goin on in the world, we ain't doin our job...GO USA GO USA bkanderson76 Mar 2014 #69

Can we have a both option? JoeyT Mar 2014 #70

Putin hates gays, yes, and he does not tolerate political dissent. amandabeech Mar 2014 #73

gays are just etc. nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #77

You must have missed the use of the comma by Manny. Autumn Mar 2014 #91

I think it's performance art. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #98

No it's not performance art. They aren't that talented. Autumn Mar 2014 #181

No, that is not what I meant at all. amandabeech Mar 2014 #178

Usually when people point out that "Putin is KGB" they fail to also nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #95

why limit to 5 years? nationalize the fed Mar 2014 #78

Two wars, drone strikes in unoccupied countries, NSA spying on foreign government leaders... PoliticalPothead Mar 2014 #79

Do you really think the Russians geek tragedy Mar 2014 #94

They sent out gift baskets with USB drives loaded with spyware. PoliticalPothead Mar 2014 #102

That is awfully naive. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #104

Not as naive as... PoliticalPothead Mar 2014 #111

And nobody pays attention to Africa... Maedhros Mar 2014 #176

Stand with Big Vladdy ProSense Mar 2014 #90

Who's Your Vladdy? SunsetDreams Mar 2014 #101

LOL! n/t ProSense Mar 2014 #103

Thanks for those Pesky Details of Putin's Attacks, PS.. Cha Mar 2014 #124

Actually, the GOP has. nt kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #100

Too early to call Samantha Mar 2014 #109

Oh, I don't know............ DeSwiss Mar 2014 #113

The Russkis are crass amateurs compared to us. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #114

At least we're #1 at something n/t Catherina Mar 2014 #120

+1,000,000 Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2014 #156

Yea, we suck. babylonsister Mar 2014 #117

" obama sucks" JI7 Mar 2014 #123

Pretty much. I'm just representing. As are you! babylonsister Mar 2014 #128

he wants to revive the "not this shit again" graphic I'm all for it bettyellen Mar 2014 #186

Its Manny's version of "American Exceptionalism". JoePhilly Mar 2014 #174

Yeah, someone's in a rut BeyondGeography Jul 2014 #202

Seems like both have wreaked their fair share of havoc. JEB Mar 2014 #119

Both? There's no monopoly on chaos. Fearless Mar 2014 #121

Careful that was some thinking there you just did. Rex Mar 2014 #134

Cogito ergo sum Fearless Mar 2014 #137

Uh oh you said dim-witted...that is like Rex Mar 2014 #133

Who's wreaked more international havoc - Obama or Putin? Drunken Irishman Mar 2014 #136

Obama shouldn't even be a on the list. To me it is Bush or Putin. Rex Mar 2014 #139

5 Years? obxhead Mar 2014 #140

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #141

President Obama reeks of international havoc BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #142

Russia: Syria and Ukraine, for starters. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2014 #145

Wouldn't want to say the wrong thing, Manny. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #147

Either you are with us or you are with the half-naked guy jsr Mar 2014 #164

lets lay it out. politicman Mar 2014 #150

+1 ozone_man Mar 2014 #171

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #151

Containment of Russia PATRICK Mar 2014 #152

But that's *different*! nt Romulox Mar 2014 #158

Make it the past 12 years CJCRANE Mar 2014 #160

*Republicans* are ignorant. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #163

Russia. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #165

Next up on wheel of outrage: "Who is more like Hitler, Obama or Putin?" JoePhilly Mar 2014 #167

lol Bobbie Jo Mar 2014 #168

We need a smile guy wearing one of these ... JoePhilly Mar 2014 #169

Yes, put words in his mouth that he didn't say. Hissyspit Jul 2014 #198

The US, and it makes no difference. Situations should be judged separately. chrisa Mar 2014 #177

sense! renegade000 Mar 2014 #188

Oops... never-mind. LanternWaste Mar 2014 #179

Who's done more for the international community lately? US or Russia? phleshdef Mar 2014 #187

But me hear you said Putin is good n' US are bad!!! Bonobo Mar 2014 #189

no, it's just Obama that is bad, you silly monkey. bettyellen Mar 2014 #190

Didn't your daddy ever tell you you are responsible for your own behavior? nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #191

Do you need "your Daddy" for something? Mine's long dead, but thanks. bettyellen Mar 2014 #194

Mine too. nt Bonobo Mar 2014 #195

MSM and $$$$$$ orpupilofnature57 Jul 2014 #201

Russia.. hands down... Peacetrain Jul 2014 #203