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Orrex

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64. Your opinion is inconsistent with fact

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 09:08 AM

Mar 2014

My opinion is that the crops themselves, modified, hybridized, and otherwise manipulated, might be cause of this. They are barely fit for human consumption.

That's a statement of faith, not science. I don't dispute that it is indeed your opinion, but it's not based on science, evidence, nor any credible studies to date.

It is much more likely that a pathogen (fungal/viral/bacterial) or a toxin (pesticide, etc.) or a combinatino of factors is to blame. Such factors are reasonably well-established and are consistent with observiation and evidence. However, it's trendy to assume instead that Monsanto is killing the world with its evil, scary crops, even though there's no evidence whatsoever that this is the case.

Remember, it wasn't so long ago that people "knew" that cellphones were to blame.

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Your opinion is inconsistent with fact Orrex Mar 2014 #64

It is much more likely...... KentuckyWoman Mar 2014 #67

When you're commenting on matters of science, you should limit idle speculation Orrex Mar 2014 #68

no GMO in my post either KentuckyWoman Mar 2014 #69

On the contrary, you have no idea what *you're* ranting about Orrex Mar 2014 #71

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