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BlueStreak

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87. I'm only interested in facts

Mon Mar 17, 2014, 01:33 PM

Mar 2014

like how many cars they are ACTUALLY selling and how many SOLID orders they really have in their backlog and WHO is going to partner in the gigaplant and HOW MUCH MONEY the partner is going to put in the deal and what the TRUE cost structure will be for the next generation product and WHEN it actually might generate volume business.

Others are welcome to follow fanciful tales about what might be some day in the future. But when it comes to investing, a person needs to seek the truth because there are countless examples where terrific sounding scenarios proved to be a house of cards.

And, are you stalking me? That's not nice. Don't you have anything better to do?

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Car Dealers Are Terrified of Tesla�s Plan to Eliminate Oil Changes [View all] n2doc Mar 2014 OP

This is the future of automobiles, and thankfully it cannot happen soon enough ... MindMover Mar 2014 #1

You do know the motor is behind the driver in the Roadster Peregrine Mar 2014 #4

It's also the past, which should be a lesson for us Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #5

and how many million vehicles were built and on the roads in those days ... ??? MindMover Mar 2014 #6

A late night show host and his electric car... hunter Mar 2014 #57

very cool!...nt Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #62

A 600 dollar a year service plan is ridiculous. Mosby Mar 2014 #2

I take it you are not religious about oil changes, speaking of the OP nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #10

I change my oil every 6000 miles Mosby Mar 2014 #11

Local shop charges 45, and we have it done by our mechanic nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #12

That was a good idea Mosby Mar 2014 #13

half that, and it had 44K when we bought her nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #14

With all that... CanSocDem Mar 2014 #58

It is separate from what I answered nadinbrzezinski Mar 2014 #59

$25 at the one of the local shops Nikia Mar 2014 #25

"Trannys and differentials"? kristopher Mar 2014 #28

Yes, of course they do. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #32

OK, I guess that is technically a transmission... kristopher Mar 2014 #37

We need a federal law FreeJoe Mar 2014 #3

Cars were made for the oil industry. That's why the electric car was killed over 100 years ago. nt valerief Mar 2014 #16

And 20 years ago... KansDem Mar 2014 #18

Yeah, that's where I learned about it (I have the DVD). All those electric trolleys that provided valerief Mar 2014 #19

Yes, that was tragic for Los Angeles. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #34

You could ride the Metrolink. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #51

Metrolink does not serve the densely populated coastal communities. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #54

Fair enough A HERETIC I AM Mar 2014 #56

Yes. For folks who live along the lines, it has been great. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #69

No FreeJoe Mar 2014 #70

Small range and long recharges MurrayDelph Mar 2014 #74

How much do you drive on average daily? kristopher Mar 2014 #76

Here in NJ the Dealers are forcing Tesla to close it's doors!!!! Walk away Mar 2014 #7

So wouldn't a lot of people lose their jobs? treestar Mar 2014 #8

Not to mention, "Oooog Not Trust New Techmology!" Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #61

Not having Tesla service centers and mechanics indie9197 Mar 2014 #9

They have service centers, but not many, because they come to YOU. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #17

Tesla S has a base price just under 60K. For that price, they should come over, fix the car Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #21

There's plenty of brands that sell $60k cars that treat you like shit. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #22

so the Tesla has no wearable parts? Bombero1956 Mar 2014 #15

Teslas don�t have any of the parts that force you to take your car in for �regularly scheduled Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #20

That's not what the article says. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #27

How many of us can afford a $70k new car? SheilaT Mar 2014 #23

Google "tesla gigafactory" kristopher Mar 2014 #77

Okay, so now I see they hope to have a car SheilaT Mar 2014 #82

The dealers are really pissed because they are not involved in the biggest cut... madinmaryland Mar 2014 #24

The Service Departments are the biggest profit center at most dealerships. bluedigger Mar 2014 #47

I don't disagree that they can be a very lucrative business. On the other hand madinmaryland Mar 2014 #49

Exactly. The initial sale is a small part of the dealership profit BlueStreak Mar 2014 #53

I think it is really a matter of scale. bluedigger Mar 2014 #63

I agree. There are no Lamborghini dealers in my state. BlueStreak Mar 2014 #65

But why should he not be able to market his cars in NJ now? bluedigger Mar 2014 #67

I would flip that around BlueStreak Mar 2014 #71

Are you seriously saying dealers do ANYTHING about lemons? kristopher Mar 2014 #78

He want factory owned stores, not franchised dealers. kristopher Mar 2014 #79

actually, most dealers lose money on new cars snooper2 Mar 2014 #91

The "sales dude" doesn't give a shit about cash or finance. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #93

You left out Undercoating. :) BlueStreak Mar 2014 #96

K&R for bookmarking: Tesla. n/t Whisp Mar 2014 #26

Last I checked, no one ever hit a pothole in an app and bent an A-arm jmowreader Mar 2014 #29

I prefer working with the manufacturer. Screw dealers. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #35

This is government we're talking about jmowreader Mar 2014 #41

Elon Musk's Letter to the People of New Jersey kristopher Mar 2014 #30

I like Musk. He gets shit done. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #38

Now I'm worried about Musk jmowreader Mar 2014 #44

I would not worry about Musk, Tesla has a very bright future ahead of it Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #50

It's the delusion that auto dealers have something against electric cars jmowreader Mar 2014 #55

Tesla is working towards those $25,000 cars Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #64

Who cares if they have cars to sell? AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #66

You're saying an auto dealer that can't get electric cars would recommend them to his customers? jmowreader Mar 2014 #73

No, I'm saying if the dealer wants to exist, they better give the manufacturer a AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #75

I imagine stables had the same anxiety early in the last century... JCMach1 Mar 2014 #31

And a remarkable absence Turbineguy Mar 2014 #33

No wonder � I've been told dealers make more money on repairs than sales Auggie Mar 2014 #36

Terrific Post...I really hadn't thought about this ...of taking it into the shop Stuart G Mar 2014 #39

What is hard to understand sadoldgirl Mar 2014 #40

Tesla just recently announced they are building a huge new factory Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #48

"An app on 4 wheels"? Great, that means it can crash. All kidding aside, I wish him luck. 7962 Mar 2014 #42

I really look forward to the day they start making Teslas that I can afford Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #43

well gee at well over $50K each everyone is going to buy one. n/t. airplaneman Mar 2014 #45

The transition from piston engine to electric cars is already happening before our eyes. GETPLANING Mar 2014 #46

I'd still go with a Nissan LEAF if I was in the market for an e-car NickB79 Mar 2014 #52

We know Christie and his bunch are scared.. Cha Mar 2014 #60

In a week where the big auto news is the average American can't afford a new car or truck Johonny Mar 2014 #68

It may be a proxy for the REAL fight that lies ahead BlueStreak Mar 2014 #72

Perhaps you could link to that "argument" by Musk. kristopher Mar 2014 #80

BTW did you tell everyone you are shorting Tesla stock? kristopher Mar 2014 #81

Why should I? This thread is about dealerships. BlueStreak Mar 2014 #83

You've been all over DU talking down a company that you've shorted. kristopher Mar 2014 #84

Most of my posts were before I took a position BlueStreak Mar 2014 #85

You are acting every bit the typical short seller talking down a stock. kristopher Mar 2014 #86

I'm only interested in facts BlueStreak Mar 2014 #87

Only insofar as you can spin them to your benefit kristopher Mar 2014 #89

Nothing I type here will affect the valuation of Tesla stock or options BlueStreak Mar 2014 #90

I started research into unethical internet behavior watching shorts during the late 90s. kristopher Mar 2014 #92

Are you accusing me of unethical behavior at DU? BlueStreak Mar 2014 #94

But there are some moving parts that still will require service. haele Mar 2014 #88

I would love a Tesla JustAnotherGen Mar 2014 #95