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Maedhros

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54. Here is an issue on which the NRA and ACLU are collaborating:

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Mon Mar 17, 2014, 02:49 PM

Mar 2014

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/nra-fearing-gun-registry-joins-aclu-opposing-nsa-phone-records-v20483283

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Do you support the work of the ACLU? [View all] 2banon Mar 2014 OP

Yep, Too poor to give, tho. DiverDave Mar 2014 #1

I support the ACLU in all their endeavors Cirque du So-What Mar 2014 #2

Well said, I'm with you on that. rgbecker Mar 2014 #3

Pretty much what I was going to say. NuclearDem Mar 2014 #6

This sarisataka Mar 2014 #12

Me, too. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #47

this. nt La Lioness Priyanka Mar 2014 #57

I haven't donated to them since citizens united. DireStrike Mar 2014 #4

It was the correct decision. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #9

Also, dumb idea, lets say 95% of the time you like their side of it. Why not support them? n-t Logical Mar 2014 #10

I support them FreeJoe Mar 2014 #15

I'm guessing you're a billionaire, then? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #39

You'd be wrong FreeJoe Mar 2014 #62

I just have this thing about $$$$ being legally equated with speech Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #68

Are you OK with banning a corporation from publishing a book during election season Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #71

$$$ aren't speech, but banning spending on speech is banning speech FreeJoe Mar 2014 #73

They do take on things that I find really hard to support or am in complete disagreement 2banon Mar 2014 #16

+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #38

Yeah, I'm a libertarian. A civil libertarian. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #5

Donated for years. Savannahmann Mar 2014 #7

I would love to see the people who voted against the ACLU reasons. n-t Logical Mar 2014 #8

My guess would be that this is because the ACLU supports the Citizens United decision, Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #22

yeah, I agree that was actually infuriating. 2banon Mar 2014 #30

My take on that, simplistic, but I think, to the point: If Money Equals Speech, then the MADem Mar 2014 #31

Exactly so. Not simplistic at all, it's just what it boils down to. n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #32

Card carrying member since 2000. nt NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #11

I support the ACLU and their aims. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #13

They strongly support the 1st Amendment Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #14

Well, to be fair, free speech is great, except when people use it to say mean things (nt) Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #33

Or when people get unauthorized jollies from looking at consenting adults nude. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #35

I changed my vote to other bigwillq Mar 2014 #17

ACLU has two separate entities. One for Lobbying, and one for Protection/Litigation work 2banon Mar 2014 #25

Sure I mostly support what the ACLU stands for Agony Mar 2014 #18

I support their mission in principle; in actual fact they occasionally take on a case that MADem Mar 2014 #19

We agree on something!! 2banon Mar 2014 #26

I don't, either.. However I understand that the principle of free speech is more antithetical to Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #64

Certainly. In the public square, anyway, the solution to speech is more speech. nt MADem Mar 2014 #65

Oh yeah. I mean, those kinds of arguments don't apply for instance to DU, right. Warren DeMontague Mar 2014 #66

Precisely! nt MADem Mar 2014 #67

I agree with them most of the time... Jeff In Milwaukee Mar 2014 #20

I didn't see 2nd Amendment rights on the list. We don't have a cafeteria style Bill of Rights badtoworse Mar 2014 #21

Priorities are given to that which is threatened 2banon Mar 2014 #34

You can't be serious. badtoworse Mar 2014 #36

Oh, I've been paying attention. 2banon Mar 2014 #37

There'd be no need for an NRA if gun control zealots weren't pushing ever more restrictive gun laws. badtoworse Mar 2014 #40

I live near Oakland. 2banon Mar 2014 #43

There is a point at which "strict regulation" of rights becomes denial of rights badtoworse Mar 2014 #45

That principle applies to all of our rights.. 2banon Mar 2014 #46

There needs to be restrictions on all rights, but only the minumum necessary. badtoworse Mar 2014 #48

I'm in complete agreement with the principle on policies you've posited here 2banon Mar 2014 #49

"if the NRA is for it, then I'm against it, and vice versa" badtoworse Mar 2014 #70

We can all remember when the NRA so valiantly saved our country in 1996 LanternWaste Mar 2014 #52

The ACLU at the national level doesn't support the 2nd Amendment Lurks Often Mar 2014 #50

Here is an issue on which the NRA and ACLU are collaborating: Maedhros Mar 2014 #54

I'll flip that around on you: Maedhros Mar 2014 #53

+1000. (nt) Paladin Mar 2014 #59

They do attach the same importance to the 2nd as others hootinholler Mar 2014 #56

Blowing off the ACLU over their 2nd Amend. stance is the very essence of cafeteria-style behavior. Paladin Mar 2014 #58

I don't agree with their support of Citizens United n/t eridani Mar 2014 #23

Pretty much... yuiyoshida Mar 2014 #24

Everything but Citizens United. Vashta Nerada Mar 2014 #27

They are benighted on the 2nd Amendment aikoaiko Mar 2014 #28

been a dues paying member since Reagan was elected SteveG Mar 2014 #29

I support them and I'd like to see them put in charge of the NSA and CIA. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2014 #41

Indeed! That'd be day for celebration.. :) n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #61

Yes, even when I don't. Throd Mar 2014 #42

that's about the way i see it.. n/t 2banon Mar 2014 #44

I'm a member and a huge fan. nt Zorra Mar 2014 #51

Im almost in 100% agreement with them on every issue LostOne4Ever Mar 2014 #55

Don't agree with them on every specific case they support Token Republican Mar 2014 #60

The ACLU is one of the few organizations I still support Blue_In_AK Mar 2014 #63

Member here...K&R. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #69

As long as $$$$$$$ = "speech" to them, they could never work for me. They work for $$$$$$. nt Romulox Mar 2014 #72