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In reply to the discussion: I just cracked the DU lack of analysis code [View all]ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)You're hardly one to talk about making stuff up bvar, but for the record:
The dispute here is where cui bono is quoting Arlen Specter(R - Pennsylvania) in an attack against President Obama.
To summarize, in 2001 the Authorization to Use Military Force against Al-Qae'ida was passed. Bush claimed that this declaration of war was Congress's permission to do whatever it took to track these terrorists down (superseding previous laws, including a 1978 law which outlawed the practice), and summarily ordered the NSA to engage in spying on U.S. citizens to find any such links. Most Democrats (including myself), considered that to be an overreach, so in 2008 Nancy Pelosi passed a compromise bill which explicitly declared that the 2001 AUMF did not give such authority, shutting the practice down entirely. As a candidate, Obama backed that compromise legislation. So these days, the only way a wiretap can be done on U.S. citizens is by court order.
* cui bono claims that supporting this compromise was worse than Bush's original construction of Presidential power.
* He also claims that I somehow agree with President Bush's construction.
* He claims (a direct quote) "BushCo committed illegal warrantless wiretapping. Obama pushed to get it legalized. It was legalized." He's pretending that Obama is worse than Bush.
* He quotes Arlen Specter pulling a classic concern-troll, in that attack.
I don't "make stuff up".
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