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In reply to the discussion: I just cracked the DU lack of analysis code [View all]ConservativeDemocrat
(2,720 posts)You are merely saying that Obama is worse than Bush on this one issue. And even though your evidence for this does not hold up in the least bit, it doesn't necessarily mean you believe that Obama is worse than Bush on all issues. So, I'll withdraw the general statement as an overreach on my part - partly in the hope that you're not so extremist as to expand this logic to all of Obama's actions.
None the less, your stating that Speaker Pelosi and (then Senator) Obama "pushed to get {illegal wiretapping} legalized." is a direct, and false, attack on them. The Speaker's bill in 2008 eliminated entirely a legal theory that we could still be operating under today, had it not been explicitly declared forbidden. The court challenges alone would have taken a decade to wind their way through the courts, and frankly, courts generally are very respectful of prerogatives of the executive when it comes to National Security, so there is absolutely no guarantee that anything would have changed at all absent the speaker's intervention.
That you choose to attempt to twist my rather unremarkable observation into a defense of the Bush Presidency speaks volumes about your willingness to adhere to the rules of debate.
Insofar as my response to you, I was going to just let it all go, since I try not to waste time with people who don't accept facts or logic. But as the front page suddenly had this piece of projection on your part being upvoted, I thought to make it clear that it was.
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