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In reply to the discussion: Do you believe that Putin's invasion of Ukraine was justified? [View all]sabbat hunter
(7,115 posts)they are far more likely to have civil rights for the population, and a truer democracy. Unlike in Russia where freedoms are suppressed, opposition is crushed and the parliament is little more than a rubber stamp for Putin who wishes to reform the Russian Empire/USSR.
Ireland is recovering quite well from its monetary woes, and is fully functioning democracy/republic.
Greece has a lot of problems many of them are of their own doing. For example, they have a fairly liberal pension for all its citizens, and a good social safety net. However they have been terrible with collecting taxes from the middle and upper classes. Instead, because of widespread corruption, tax collectors get paid off and do not do their job. If Greece was able to collect all the taxes it was owed, plus the back taxes it is owed, its budget problems would practically vanish.
But even with all of that, they have a fully functioning democracy/republic, with normal elections, no power grabs by the chief executive etc.
In Ukraine under the ousted president, you had an executive that was trying to grab more and more power for himself and his cronies, was basically a Putin puppet.
The IMF/World Bank is not pulling and strings in Greece or Ireland. They were bailed out mainly via the EU.
and if you look at past IMF bailouts like Argentina, that country had a long run of a growing economy, freely elected governments, etc.