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Orrex

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68. When you're commenting on matters of science, you should limit idle speculation

Tue Mar 18, 2014, 09:01 AM

Mar 2014

My post includes another factor to consider. One of many. Now you can disagree that that there is any chance the lack of variety or the crops themselves might have a part to play

Your post includes a factor that has been considered and has been debunked as irrelevant. Until someone demonstrates that GMO crops actually are a factor in colony collapse, then it is irresponsible to include GMO crops in your list of suspects. It's exactly the same mode of thinking that zealots use when they reject vaccinations because of fears about autism.

You are welcome to your opinion. When your opinion is inconsistent with fact, as it is in this case, then you can expect people to point out the error in your thinking.

I never said anything about Monsanto.

Oh, but you did. Otherwise, exactly which GMO crops were you describing? Manufactured by whom? "I wasn't talking about Apple; I was talking about iPhones." Puh-leeze.

And even if you weren't in this instance talking specifically about Monsanto, it's irrelevant; the fear-mongerers will rail against any corporation that produces evil GMO crops, so--to the fear-mongers--a GMO rose by any other name would smell as evil.

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It is much more likely...... KentuckyWoman Mar 2014 #67

When you're commenting on matters of science, you should limit idle speculation Orrex Mar 2014 #68

no GMO in my post either KentuckyWoman Mar 2014 #69

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