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MellowDem

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28. No "race" has "the problem"...
Sun Mar 25, 2012, 01:24 AM
Mar 2012

it's more of a human issue. While your daughter ran into no trouble, quite a few white people have run into trouble in black neighborhoods, or they have heard stories from those that have, or they most certainly have seen nightly news reports/crime shows that all tend to effect how they perceive the world and pre-judge those that live in it. And the statistics don't help either. I go to a college that e-mails reports of crime that happen on campus. The campus is in an urban environment. I've gotten around 20 e-mails so far this year about muggings of students around the campus, and in every single case, the suspects were described as young black males. Gotta wonder how that effects people's perceptions when they're walking to their cars late at night.

I have gotten some trouble for being white in a black neighborhood, but it was few and far between. I have had friends get mugged in a black neighborhood. Now, this is the point where some people will take one of two different approaches to it. One is to overreact to these sorts of things and become very fearful and paranoid and quickly prejudge regardless of context. The other is to understand the context of the situation and learn from it and move on. It's very human for people to categorize danger, and doing it based on not just skin color, but age, dress style, location, time of day, etc. is second nature to everyone, whatever race (or sex) they are.

When I'm walking down the street at night, and some woman is walking alone towards me, I understand that she will likely be apprehensive of me, given the context of the situation.

Of course, this kind of pre-judging comes at a cost, that being that people can indeed be wrong when they pre-judge. Depending on the situation, and the amount of prejudice used without any sort of context, the cost can be very high indeed, as was the case in Florida. And of course, there is a larger societal cost of prejudice, as history bears out as well.

The issue with categorization and prejudice becomes acute when logic is thrown out the window in favor of fear and paranoia. Obviously, experiencing threatening situations directly can make a person throw logic out the window, and this happens. Many times, though, societal percptions aren't shaped by personal experiences but rather by larger societal narratives (provided by media) that in some ways are much worse than personal experience. I have gotten in trouble for being white in a black neighborhood. Once. I've also walked through black neighborhoods many times with no trouble, and even friendly hellos and smiles. I have other experiences to counter that one. Other people who have little to no experience with other communities at all can only rely on what they see in the news. And what they see is usually awfully one sided.

Even worse are those politically inclined to an inherently more fearful and paranoid ideology, one that thrives on it actually, and has radio shows that spout it every day. That makes people draw clear distinctions much quicker and much more radically without context. It's an easy, even attractive mindset, because it allows for quick, clear answers to most situations, even if it means little or no accuracy in how a situation is assessed.

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The difference? you aren't self quarantined in a vehicle underpants Mar 2012 #1
Yes, it's the fault of automobiles! thesquanderer Mar 2012 #4
You have made a very good point. It is indeed the fault of automobiles. GoneOffShore Mar 2012 #14
Add in public libraries and community centers ... surrealAmerican Mar 2012 #15
Two more "Great, good places". n/t GoneOffShore Mar 2012 #22
You haven't been to my public library. Manifestor_of_Light Mar 2012 #26
She would hate our library...... mrmpa Mar 2012 #29
K/R and 1/7 of living Americans are K-12 students. NYC_SKP Mar 2012 #2
The minorities (and you)... AlbertCat Mar 2012 #3
Bingo. One of the issues that is causing most of the problems we are facing is the "poor" white jwirr Mar 2012 #17
Correct answer. nt MrScorpio Mar 2012 #25
I resent the implication of many of these posts xtraxritical Mar 2012 #27
I'm not sure that's relevant. noamnety Mar 2012 #33
Wow I love this response. TNLib Mar 2012 #38
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This message was self-deleted by its author HockeyMom Mar 2012 #6
Thank you HockeyMom Mar 2012 #7
Tim Wise's essay... handmade34 Mar 2012 #8
Tim Wise is the MAN. I never cease to be amazed by him Number23 Mar 2012 #10
Tim Wise is one of the most appropriately-named people I've ever read. TahitiNut Mar 2012 #40
... handmade34 Mar 2012 #42
#nerdland TahitiNut Mar 2012 #43
R.E.S.P.E.C.T. HockeyMom Mar 2012 #9
I believe it is about handmade34 Mar 2012 #13
because most of us live gutless, cowardly lives. lets get down to it. pasto76 Mar 2012 #11
Well, we both know cowards can be dangerous... TahitiNut Mar 2012 #41
Beautiful story, hopefully repeated, though not always true. Zax2me Mar 2012 #12
Ahhh, the South Bronx Iwillnevergiveup Mar 2012 #16
i'm a former new yorker. DesertFlower Mar 2012 #18
Unfortunately, the answer to your question is because you don't live down here in the South... dsharp88 Mar 2012 #19
There are two wolfs in each of us, a good one and a bad one. They are both out to consume our Vincardog Mar 2012 #20
Sounds a lot like my mom taking the bus to work every day. we can do it Mar 2012 #21
I lived on the border of Canarsie, East New York, and Brownsville, RoccoR5955 Mar 2012 #23
"It has to work BOTH WAYS." unkachuck Mar 2012 #24
No "race" has "the problem"... MellowDem Mar 2012 #28
sorry, but killing black people was pretty much legal for a long time in this country noiretextatique Mar 2012 #39
I wasn't drawing an equivalence... MellowDem Mar 2012 #44
ok...sorry for prejudging you noiretextatique Mar 2012 #45
It can be a choice... MellowDem Mar 2012 #46
you are right...it doesn't help when irrational fears are fed by a constant barrage of propaganda noiretextatique Mar 2012 #47
I guess it must just be Florida. FLSurfer Mar 2012 #30
nope..it is not just florida. NYPD has an ugly history noiretextatique Mar 2012 #37
You're making generalizations not based on facts. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #31
what happened to Trayvon Martin is a consistent, ugly patttern noiretextatique Mar 2012 #36
Your making general assumptions 40lbsHammer Mar 2012 #32
not really noiretextatique Mar 2012 #35
i live in oakland, ca noiretextatique Mar 2012 #34
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